Entangled roots in the Quantum Forest

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Entangled roots in the Quantum Forest

Postby hyksos on June 3rd, 2016, 1:47 am 

If a tree falls in a forest, and there is no one around to hear it, does it make a sound?

In the Quantum Forest, the tree both falls and does not fall, and as long as no one visits the Forest, the tree will remain suspended in a superposition of fallen and not-fallen. Since a forest constitutes more than one tree, the other trees there will also remain unheard, and so they will also be both fallen and upright at the same time.

As long as the Quantum Forest is not visited, the individuality of the trees will begin to dissolve. Where there were allegedly individual trees with independent physical states, there is now an amorphous woody cluster of quantum trees, whose upright and fallen states are merely potential possibilities. The roots of the amorphous quantum trees intertwine with one another in the ground under the forest, as if passing through another dimension. Over time the unheard quantum trees become entangled like vines.

Whenever Alice visits the Quantum Forest, she only ever sees the trees there either fallen or standing upright, and never in between. She supposes that they were already like that before she arrived. But she also knows that story cannot be right. Whenever she visits the Quantum Forest through the north side, the status of trees on the opposite side are correlated with her visit. The trees on the south border appear to "know" that Alice saw the trees on the north treeline.

In an attempt to reach a conclusive explanation, Bob contends that the forest is real, and the trees are temporary representations of the underlying material reality of an entangled forest. Alice is unconvinced. She asserts that the trees are physically real, and that their entanglement is merely a description of their behavior. In her version of things, the forest is a mental category written on paper, and not a real thing out there in the world.

Alice and Bob have never reached a consensus on the Quantum Forest. They continue to debate each other to the present day.
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Re: Entangled roots in the Quantum Forest

Postby Don Juan on June 3rd, 2016, 4:46 am 

hyksos wrote:If a tree falls in a forest, and there is no one around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Since a tree and a forest can be both described as processes, can it be claimed there is a tree or a forest so as to be able to claim further and assess if whether a tree falls in a forest and makes a sound?
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Re: Entangled roots in the Quantum Forest

Postby Dave_Oblad on June 3rd, 2016, 6:14 pm 

If Alice and Bob never agree and Bob makes a statement when Alice is not there to hear, is Bob still wrong?

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Re: Entangled roots in the Quantum Forest

Postby dandelion on June 6th, 2016, 6:24 pm 

An object is a monotonous process, or a monotonous event - Nelson Goodman, roughly.
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Re: Entangled roots in the Quantum Forest

Postby dandelion on June 8th, 2016, 8:47 am 

I should have referenced something for context- file:///C:/Users/Home/Downloads/sance%20du%2025%20mars%202013.pdf
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Re: Entangled roots in the Quantum Forest

Postby Braininvat on June 8th, 2016, 10:45 am 

Hi, Dande. If you want to upload a home file, you need to use the Upload Attachment tab that's below the full text editor window. I will demonstrate...
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