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hyksos » June 5th, 2017, 6:22 pm wrote:This is a problem lying in the deep recesses of the hearts and minds of white Americans.
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someguy1 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:34 am wrote:hyksos » June 5th, 2017, 6:22 pm wrote:This is a problem lying in the deep recesses of the hearts and minds of white Americans.
Is this bait for someone? I see the worm wriggling at the end of the hook but I think I'll skip it. Except to say that people who see racism everywhere should probably look in the mirror.
I'll add a factual point that you could look up. It was in the news a few weeks back. Several million people who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 failed to bother to go to the polls in 2016. Why do you think that is? They're all racists? Maybe it's because they couldn't stomach voting for a corrupt incompetent warmonger like Hillary "Not my fault" Clinton, whose post-election behavior has reminded us of why she lost.
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I think the majority of Americans are repelled by 45's bigotry,
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Serpent » June 6th, 2017, 9:28 am wrote:I suspect there is more wrong with US electoral politics than the most recent poor excuses for presidential candidates or 'redistricting'.
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"Obstruction of justice. Comey fired." over and over again 84 times a day.
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hyksos » June 6th, 2017, 9:51 am wrote:I think the majority of Americans are repelled by 45's bigotry,
On statistical grounds, your assertion is arithmetically correct.
But why do you mention it? For psychological comfort and conversational distraction.
A mere "majority" is repelled by bigotry? That's not saying much. That would be like denying the 40% of the people sitting next to you on the bus would all things being equal , wholly support Muslim Interment Camps. I would say you don't want to face that fact because it makes you uncomfortable. Becaause it hurts. It stings.
Again, like the liberal pundits, it is not Trump who appalls and shocks you. It's not his late-night tweets that bother your heart. No, the appalling shock derives from the way your fellow countrymen react to such hatred. The way they (in numbers) react with their stiff nazi hand salutes. That's what's really at stake here. It's not Trump, it's his supporters and the sheer numbers of them. An irrational belief in the goodness of your neighbors gives rise to your dodging and excuse-making.
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My guess, a speculative one, is that maybe 50% of that base would seriously consider internment camps. So, in my estimate, that would mean half of 27%, i.e. 13.5% of the electorate.
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hyksos » June 5th, 2017, 6:22 pm wrote:A hypothetical question :
What if Donald Trump were to tweet that Muslims should be interned in camps until which time we can "figure out what is going on!" ??
This is what would happen: Such a tweet would cause the Republicans to sweep the House of Reps in the midterms. But why is this? Because every time the President tweets anti-Muslim hatred, his voting base loves it. It's sweet music to their ears.
The more he tweets anti-muslim hatred, the faster the halls of congress will fill with (R)'s.
This is not even a Trump-problem. This is a much deeper problem. This is a problem lying in the deep recesses of the hearts and minds of white Americans.
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Braininvat » June 6th, 2017, 12:08 pm wrote:hyksos » June 6th, 2017, 9:51 am wrote:I think the majority of Americans are repelled by 45's bigotry,
On statistical grounds, your assertion is arithmetically correct.
But why do you mention it? For psychological comfort and conversational distraction.
A mere "majority" is repelled by bigotry? That's not saying much. That would be like denying the 40% of the people sitting next to you on the bus would all things being equal , wholly support Muslim Interment Camps. I would say you don't want to face that fact because it makes you uncomfortable. Becaause it hurts. It stings.
Again, like the liberal pundits, it is not Trump who appalls and shocks you. It's not his late-night tweets that bother your heart. No, the appalling shock derives from the way your fellow countrymen react to such hatred. The way they (in numbers) react with their stiff nazi hand salutes. That's what's really at stake here. It's not Trump, it's his supporters and the sheer numbers of them. An irrational belief in the goodness of your neighbors gives rise to your dodging and excuse-making.
Right now I have one request: do not respond to the content of posts by attempting to psychoanalyze the author of the post. For one thing, you are really bad at it.
Nothing I said was for "psychological comfort," it was said because it was pertinent to your OP. Trump's base is, what, around 27% of Americans? (27% of voters registered in 2016) And not all of them voted on the Muslim issue, or necessarily have the sort of bigoted attitude you described (some just wanted offshore jobs to return to the U.S. or they wanted to replace Obamacare, or they wanted etc etc.). My guess, a speculative one, is that maybe 50% of that base would seriously consider internment camps. So, in my estimate, that would mean half of 27%, i.e. 13.5% of the electorate. And yes, of course, even that figure would be appalling. Especially in a nation whose fundamental principles and spirit are grossly violated by the whole idea. The important thing is for you, me, and pretty much everyone we know who is not in that group of bigoted f---heads, to constantly be making our voices heard as to what America really stands for.
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hyksos » June 6th, 2017, 12:05 pm wrote:Serpent » June 6th, 2017, 9:28 am wrote:I suspect there is more wrong with US electoral politics than the most recent poor excuses for presidential candidates or 'redistricting'.
Thank you! Thank you for your honesty.
That man Donald Trump, crushed Hillary and Jeb Bush in a general election. He swept Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota. Remember this? This actually happened.
The blue-haired SJWs cannot even accept in their brains and their minds and in their "reality" that this man is actually their president.
They think this a nightmare from which they will awake soon, when the liberal lawyers impeach him on "Obstruction of justice".
The liberal media pundits ... etc, etc.
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How many times was this item - which wasn't news at all - mentioned?
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He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
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