doogles » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:52 am wrote:
The comment "friendly in ways no other propulsion system (save, perhaps, solar) could be." makes it sound even better than Hydrogen Fuel Cells.
I notice that it's a 'Commercial-in confidence process' at this stage.
I know it's early days, but do you have an opinion as to whether Hydrogen may already be outdated, and not worth investing in as a new technology?
That statement sounds like just common publicity or vague news reporter jargon.
My opinion on hydrogen fuel cells is there is no way in hell you are going to see them go away right now. California has invested so much money in them over such a long period of time that they could almost be comparable to fossil fuel technologies in some ways. I have a hydrogen fuel cell fueling station only about 50 miles from my house actually. California being just one of... well see the previous 50 or so posts in this thread. There are a lot of players in the game right now and this has continually been growing since at least when I started following the industry in the year 1999.
About four months ago attended a lecture given by one of the people in charge of the California Air Resource Board near... tesla central. There were a lot of proud Tesla owners in the audience and by the end of the lecture presentation, they were all ready to trade in their Tesla's for a hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. Among the reasons was trunk and interior space. lol
So, as for being outdated. With that respect they are brand new and growing market share in big ways. Just take a look at multi-carbonate hydrogen fuel cell stuff which the fracking industry is taking advantage of right now. Apparently can put units over fracking wells, and collect enough gas to make it economical. (I think it was fracking, maybe it was tar sands). That's why they aren't outdated. They are extremely versatile from powering cellphones to rockets. Hydrogen is attracted to water and you can get hydrogen from many different places. Even if we succeeded creating fusion reactors I imagine we would be using hydrogen fuel cells as part of the mix of energy technologies and hydrogen might even take over since I don't know of anything comparable myself.
The other point I can make is what I have read in a couple books. Superior technologies take time for market acceptance. There are a lot of factors that lead to something becoming common in society. Patents, being in the right time at the right place, policy, vested parties, standards, compatible products. One of the challenges with hydrogen is everyone for years and still are citing the Hindenburg incident. Gasoline is one of the most dangerous and easily obtainable substances in the world but people don't think about it that much. It takes a long time for products to be accepted even if they are better. Humans often don't like change, so it takes time for people to accept things. There is a lot of psychology involved so being outdated might not matter sometimes.