Forest_Dump » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:48 am wrote:
Wolfhnd even if I granted everything you wrote about some secret Kabal of international bankers and the role of US dollars, etc., and granted you have caught onto some hidden thread of truth, absolutely nothing Trump has said or done indicates to me that he would do anything other than try to get at least one of his kids a seat at that table. I don't believe there is a shred of interest towards any sector of any public in him. At best I see nothing but a rabid desire to fulfill some dream of his own glory and legacy. Beyond that he is having his strings pulled by the Republican establishment which is beyond his control.
I wasn't suggesting a hidden kabal and went to some trouble to point out that there is nothing obviously unseemly about the cooperation of the rich and powerful. Most of what I said is widely known and accepted by those who take an interest in such things.
It is also not obvious that that the international banking community would not be justified in punishing China and favoring the U.S. What is frightening as I said is their apparent confidence in the face of evident incompetence. What we have is global elites that believe they can control events that they cannot. The fact that they always seem to profit from chaos has more to do with the nature of markets than conspiracy.
That does not mean that there is any reason to admire the banksters. They have the ethics of alley cats but to some extent that is not something they do not share especially with the poor but perhaps the majority of the population including social justice warriors.
What is frightening about Trump is he may think that he can beat the globalist at their own game. It is a dangerous game because when threatened these people pack up the toys and go home leaving the entire system in chaos.
Even though I think Clinton is evil I could of voted for her if she wasn't one of the most evidently incompetent globalist. I voted for Trump largely because the establishment needed a stimulus to get their act together. I don't like the way the world is but I believe history shows that a degree of corruption is preferably to chaos.
I may be on the wrong side of history and probably would have been opposed to the American revolution against Britain for fear of chaos. I certainly don't think however that the revolution turned out badly but it could have. If you think of the British crown as the current global elites then his greatest crime was similarly to them incompetence. By voting for Trump I'm going against my nature and taking a chance that shaking the establishment will not break it.
Reducing the discussion to a question of character is making the mistake that we have the luxury to do so. This common mistake I attribute to the tribal instincts of humans. As I stated earlier large complex societies cannot operate under the rules that work well in a tribal environment.
I will offer only one example of how tribal instincts are dysfunction in dealing with complex societies although their are many. The natural instinct to help the poor results in a welfare state. The welfare state reduces the incentive for females to form healthy relationships. Unhealthy relationships destroy the lives of millions of young males who would normally be under the control of responsible adult males. Almost ever gang banger was raised by a single mother. The argument that poverty was the cause is easily dismissed because the same people lived in even greater poverty before the welfare state but in many ways were more civilized.
Complex problems require complex solutions not the kind of answers that come from empathetic reasoning and intuition.
The priority is to prevent the kind of chaos produced by incompetent globalist like Clinton who meddle in places like Libya. She is essential indistinguishable from Bush in this regard. Trump promises to put a break on the meddling and distribute responsibility in a way consistent with the inevitable decline of U.S. hegemony.
We are past propping up a house who's foundation is rotten. The price to be paid is for countries like Australia, Canada, Germany, France, Japan, South Korea to not only assume the financial burden of maintaining stability but accept becoming primary targets of nuclear weapons. The period of Pax Americano is coming to and end and so is the system that propped up socialism in every Western country besides the U.S.