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Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on February 14th, 2017, 5:52 am 

Michael Flynn the National Security adviser of President Trump resigned last night after only 24 days in the job.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38965557

His resignation was provoked by conflicting accounts of his contacts with Sergey Kislyak the Russian ambassador to the USA as to whether they had discussed the sanctions imposed on Russia by the outgoing Obama administration in December 2016 in response to findings by US intelligence that Russia had attempted to influence the 2016 presidential election.

Flynn in his resignation letter effectively admitted having misled VP Mike Pence as to whether the sanctions had been discussed. Having initially denied that such conversations had taken place, Flynn was forced to admit that they had after it became known that wiretaps existed which demonstrated that they were a topic of conversation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.0bd212751955

It became clear that Flynn’s job was in peril, and that the entire Trump administration was in chaos over the issue last night when two key members went on live TV and made conflicting statements about Flynn within 15 minutes of each other. Kellyanne Conway first said that Michael Flynn had President Trump’s “fullest confidence” only for White House press spokesman Sean Spicer to say moments later on another network that President Trump was “evaluating the situation”.

The Logan Act of 1799 renders it illegal for any private citizen to negotiate affairs of state with representatives of a foreign government. The act has never been prosecuted at law, so there is no fund of case history or legal precedent to guide the courts, but quite apart from the latent illegality of Flynn’s indiscretion, there also exist legitimate concerns that he could have been blackmailed by the Russians over this issue.These concerns had already been raised with the White House last month by acting attorney general Sally Yates who was then sacked on 31 January after instructing the justice department not to defend Trump’s EO travel ban.

Michael Flynn who is a retired three star Lieutenant General had previously been fired from his job as head of the DIA (Defence Intelligence Agency) under the Obama administration in 2014. He became an outspoken critic of the Democrats and a fiercely loyal supporter of Donald Trump who was often seen leading the chants of “Lock her up!” against Hillary Clinton at Republican rallies.

Michael Flynn jnr. the son of General Flynn was previously fired from his job working with his father on Trumps’s transition team on 5 December 2016 after he persisted in tweeting his support for the absurd ‘Pizzagate’ conspiracy theory alleging that senior Democrats had supposedly been running a paedophile sex ring from a non-existent basement cellar at the Comet Ping Pong Pizza Parlour in Washington DC.

Retired Lt. Gen. Joseph Keith Kellogg Jr. will serve as acting national security advisor until a full-time replacement is named, the White House announced.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on February 16th, 2017, 3:30 pm 

Too good not to share, especially as Dumpty is off on another major rant about 'dishonest media'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pRt4dFBkCA

[SNL Jake Tapper- Kellyanne Conway - Fatal Attraction]
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby Athena on February 16th, 2017, 4:25 pm 

Are we suppose to think Michael Flynn just went off on his own and contacted Sergey Kislyak the Russian ambassador to the USA about the sanctions imposed on Russia by the outgoing Obama administration in December 2016? I don't think that is likely.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby someguy1 on February 16th, 2017, 5:36 pm 

One can be glad Flynn's gone, yet be concerned that the intelligence community bugged a private citizen's phone calls and selectively leaked innuendo about the calls to the press. Anybody the intel community doesn't like could be the next victim.

In fact the FBI's own investigation showed that Flynn broke no law and committed no malfeasance whatsoever.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on February 16th, 2017, 6:03 pm 

Michael Flynn was interviewed by FBI officers on 26 January 2017 about his prior discussions with the Russian ambassador and gave evasive and dishonest answers. - That's a felony offence.

The discussions apparently began before he was confirmed and sworn in as a member of government, so he was in breach of the 1799 Logan Act - that is also a felony offence.

The FBI were tapping the Russian ambassador's communications, Flynn chose to phone him, not the other way round, so the FBI were fully within the remit of their warrants to listen in. Given that Flynn was a former director of the DIA you do wonder just how stupid he had to be to not realise that that the Feds would be listening in to Sergey Kislyak's incoming calls, but there again, anyone sufficiently divorced from reality to believe in the 'Pizzagate' conspiracy theories probably is that stupid.

Finally, these were wiretap intercepts, not toll records traces or traffic analysis. The FBI and intel community don't need to guess what was said by whom, to whom or when. They already have full transcripts and printouts.

As comedian Steve Colbert pointed out, if Michael Flynn was having any difficulty in remembering exactly what he said to the Russian ambassador, he could simply have asked his staff for a copy of the transcripts to refresh his rusty memory.

Within the near future, or round about now, a bi-partisan committee of congressional enquiry will ask for these transcripts in the form of a classified briefing, and they will probably become public about ten minutes later. At which point things will become very interesting and revealing indeed.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby Athena on February 16th, 2017, 8:24 pm 

I think Michael Moore maybe correct.

Hey @realDonaldTrump-1hr after Obama put sanctions on Russia YOU told Flynn 2 call them & promise em it'll be OK. Traitor!Resign by morning!

— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) February 14, 2017


http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/31 ... an-traitor
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby Braininvat on February 16th, 2017, 10:41 pm 

Hi, Toucan.

Regarding,

The discussions apparently began before he was confirmed and sworn in as a member of government, so he was in breach of the 1799 Logan Act - that is also a felony offence.


What's funny is that this law has never been used in a successful prosecution of a public official. You would think, in a span of 218 years, that at least one of the many scruffy characters who populate American history would have been taken down with the Logan Act.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on February 17th, 2017, 8:06 am 

Braininvat wrote:What's funny is that this law has never been used in a successful prosecution of a public official. You would think, in a span of 218 years, that at least one of the many scruffy characters who populate American history would have been taken down with the Logan Act.


You could say the same about impeachment. To date no US president has been removed from office as a result of an impeachment process. Andrew Johnson was impeached in 1868 but fell one vote short of dismissal, Bill Clinton was impeached 1998 but was acquitted in the Senate, and Richard Nixon resigned his office ahead of an impeachment vote in 1974.

Given some of the dillies who have found their way into office during the last 228 years, that is really quite amazing.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby Athena on February 21st, 2017, 12:56 pm 

Braininvat » February 16th, 2017, 8:41 pm wrote:Hi, Toucan.

Regarding,

The discussions apparently began before he was confirmed and sworn in as a member of government, so he was in breach of the 1799 Logan Act - that is also a felony offence.


What's funny is that this law has never been used in a successful prosecution of a public official. You would think, in a span of 218 years, that at least one of the many scruffy characters who populate American history would have been taken down with the Logan Act.



What is not funny is Trump may have used him and no one seems to care.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby Braininvat on February 21st, 2017, 1:03 pm 

Athena, the Dem coalition in congress (plus John McCain) cares quite a bit, and there is mounting pressure to fully investigate Trump's role in getting Flynn to violate the Logan Act.

Trump is slippery, however, and this kind of thing is hard to get solid facts on. Kind of like when they tried to link Al Capone to all the mob killings going on. Capone was smart enough not leave too many trails of breadcrumbs, so they had to get him on tax evasion instead. Come to think of it...
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on February 21st, 2017, 3:49 pm 

Rather interestingly, Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-NJ) who sits on the Ways and Means Committee has recently submitted a formal request to chairman Kevin Brady (R-TX) that seeks to use an obscure 1924 tax code provision to force disclosure of ten years worth of Donald Trump's tax returns.

http://usuncut.com/news/congressman-invokes-obscure-1924-rule-expose-trumps-tax-returns/

Here is the full text of that letter:
Dear Chairman Brady:

The Founding Fathers were determined to prevent corruption among public officeholders under our Constitution. The emoluments clause prohibits federal officeholders from accepting foreign gifts or emoluments without congressional consent. Their intention was to forbid relationships that might lead to corruption. Harvard Law professor Laurence Tribe and lawyer Joshua Matz have written that the meaning of “emoluments” as the framers intended included profits received in a business relationship.

President Trump has chosen to keep an ownership stake in his businesses, the scope of which we have no knowledge of as he has refused to disclose his tax returns. We believe that it is imperative for the public to know and understand his 564 financial positions in domestic and foreign companies, and his self-reported net worth of more than $10 billion. We know that state-owned enterprises in China and the United Arab Emirates are involved in his businesses, and that his business ties stretch to India, Turkey, the Philippines, and beyond. Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Taiwan may also have ties to his businesses. These foreign entities are paying rents, licensing agreement payments, and issuing permits for developments — effectively giving them a tool to influence our new President.

None of these potential conflicts can be verified until and unless we have disclosure from President Trump. Every major Presidential candidate since Richard Nixon, with the exception of President Gerald Ford who released a summary of tax data, has released his or her tax returns for public review – until now.

If the President does not either release his returns or consent to examination of such returns by this Committee, I urge you, as Chairman of the Committee and pursuant to Section 6103(f)(1) of the Internal Revenue Code, to submit a written request to the Secretary of the Treasury for copies of the President’s federal tax returns by February 15, 2017. These returns and all accompanying return information should then be made available for examination by all Committee Members in a closed executive session. I further request that the Committee then vote in this closed session to submit the President’s federal tax returns to the House of Representatives—thereby, if successful, making them available to the public. This Committee followed a similar procedure to release confidential taxpayer information in the past during its exhaustive investigation of the treatment of certain tax-exempt organizations.

The Presidential campaign is over and the fear that a political opponent will try to use tax returns for electoral benefit is passed. President Trump is now governing while also owning a business with international investments. The Constitution faces unprecedented threats due to this arrangement. I believe the powerful Ways and Means Committee has the responsibility to use that power to ensure proper oversight of the executive branch by requesting a review of President Trump’s tax returns and moving towards a formal release of these documents to the public.

I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely,

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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby Athena on February 21st, 2017, 10:30 pm 

Braininvat » February 21st, 2017, 11:03 am wrote:Athena, the Dem coalition in congress (plus John McCain) cares quite a bit, and there is mounting pressure to fully investigate Trump's role in getting Flynn to violate the Logan Act.

Trump is slippery, however, and this kind of thing is hard to get solid facts on. Kind of like when they tried to link Al Capone to all the mob killings going on. Capone was smart enough not leave too many trails of breadcrumbs, so they had to get him on tax evasion instead. Come to think of it...


I am so glad to know that! I know people are innocent until proven guilty but it is hard to imagine why Flynn would do what he did unless it involved Trump. Like even if you decided to call Russia tomorrow, who would listen to you? There had to be a reason for making that phone call, and there had to be a Russian reason for listening.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on March 10th, 2017, 5:10 am 

Michael Flynn has now filed papers with the department of Justice to register as a foreign agent.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/09/michael-flynn-foreign-agent-sean-spicer

The former national security adviser retroactively disclosed that he lobbied for a Danish firm called Inovo linked to Turkish government while working as Trump’s campaign adviser.

On Wednesday, it was revealed that from September to November last year, while he was working as a top adviser to Trump’s presidential campaign, Flynn was lobbying for a firm linked to the Turkish government, earning $530,000. He and his company Flynn Intel Group Inc filed retroactive documents with the Department of Justice two days ago to register as a foreign agent.

Under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, US citizens who lobby on behalf of foreign governments or political entities must disclose their work to the justice department. Willfully failing to register is a felony, though the justice department rarely files criminal charges in such cases.

During this period Flynn penned an op-ed calling for a “radical” cleric Gülen (whom the Turkish government wants to extradite) to be booted out of the US.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/foreign-policy/305021-our-ally-turkey-is-in-crisis-and-needs-our-support#.WCPhv1d4UUU.twitter

Donald Trump was unaware his former national security adviser Michael Flynn was working as a “foreign agent” when he gave him the job, according to his press secretary.

“I don’t believe that was known,” said Sean Spicer, when asked by reporters at his regular press briefing on Thursday.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on March 10th, 2017, 9:40 pm 

Here is 'Morning Joe' on MSNBC and their guests attempting to process the news that Michael Flynn was acting as a paid foreign agent of Turkey when appointed as National Security adviser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lcukzRwUIM

The GOP supporters are having to to pivot away from the pretence that Flynn was brought down by 'fake news' after VP Mike Pence said the revelations 'vindicated' Trump's decision to fire Flynn, which came as a surprise to those who were still under the impression that Flynn had 'resigned ' after 'accidentally misleading' Pence.

Meanwhile, media critics are asking what sort of 'extreme vetting' allowed an undisclosed foreign agent to be appointed as a National Security adviser after a confirmation hearing during a presidential transition period ?

They might also quite reasonably ask how many other countries was he acting as a paid agent for, and was Russia one them as well ?
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on March 16th, 2017, 8:16 pm 

A CNN report has disclosed that Michael Flynn received $33,750 for an interview he gave to RT (Russia Today) in December 2015.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/michael-flynn-payments-rt-russia-tv/index.html

RT is owned by the Russian government and is regarded by the CIA as a propaganda and disinformation arm of the Russian intelligence services.

Flynn had previously acknowledged the speaking engagement, telling multiple news outlets in July and August that he received money for the speech. But he declined to state the amount, saying that the source of the funds was his US speakers bureau, not the Russian broadcaster.

"I didn't take any money from Russia," Flynn told Yahoo News in July.

Documents obtained by CNN from the House Oversight Committee show that they have acquired an email dated November 13, 2015, from an official of RT TV-Russia stating, "We will be covering the payment of General Flynn's fee from our London office."

According to the documents, Flynn also received $11,250 from a Russian charter cargo airline and $11,250 from a Russia-based cybersecurity corporation, though neither of those companies were state-owned.

According to regulations, Flynn would have had to have sought approval from the Army to receive such payment, something the Army has no record of.
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Re: Michael Flynn Resigns As Trump NS Adviser

Postby toucana on March 17th, 2017, 6:13 am 

The Russian airline carrier that Michael Flynn received payment from was the Volga-Dnpr company who were recently involved in a massive $700,000 UN procurement scandal involving corrupt UN official and a dozen or more disgraced high ranking Russian diplomats.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/us/politics/michael-flynn-russia-paid-trip.html

Flynn was paid $11,250 by Volga-Dnpr according to the NYT report. He also received another $11,250 from Kaspersky Government Security Solutions, a cyber security firm with close links to the Russian government.

In addition to the $33,760 speaking fee he received from RT television for an appearance in 2015, the Russian television company which is a propaganda arm of the Russian government also paid for all his travel costs, accommodation, hospitality, and per diems during his trip to Russia.

None of these payments were declared to the Pentagon or the federal government, nor were they mentioned during Flynn's confirmation hearings at the time of his appointment as National Security adviser according to this segment by Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U_CnGhj2FQ
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