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Married to the Mob

Postby zetreque on July 24th, 2017, 4:52 pm 

New Republic: Married to the Mob
Sept 2017
"Trump's Russian Laundromat"

If anyone can get their hands on that issue it's all about dirty Russian money and a lot of evidence of Trump being a patsy for Russian Mafia laundering billions of dollars. Gives me a really sick feeling reading about how Russia has funneled it's money into the US and through what is now president patsy.

But whatever his knowledge about the source of his wealth, the public record makes clear that Trump built his business empire in no small part with a lot of dirty money from a lot of dirty Russians- including the dirtiest and most feared of them all.


There is thread on here about if Russia is really that bad. This gives a whole new insight into it.

A question is just how much is Trump aware that he is a patsy? Obviously you run fancy hotels you get wealthy tenants but to what extent did the guy we call president of our country knowingly contribute to one of the most "evil" forces in the country/ world by letting Russia finances his empire. With all the trips documented to Russia over the years and deals building hotels there and undocumented deals under private entities it's pretty sketchy. There might not be a smoking gun but when you add everything up together it seems like one.

"willfully violated anti-money laundering regulations for years" at Trump Taj Mahal

Throughout the 1990s, untold millions from the former soviet Union flowed into Trump's Atlantic City casinos. But all the money wasn't enough to save Trump from his own failings as a businessman. He owed $4 billion to more than 70 banks, with a mind boggling 800 million of it personally guaranteed. He spent much of the decade mired in litigation, filing for multiple bankruptcies and scrambling to survive. For most developers, the situation would have spelled financial ruin. But fortunately for Trump, his own economic crisis coincided with one in Russia.

In 1998, Russia defaulted on the 40 billion in debt, causing the ruble to plummet and Russian banks to close. The ensuing financial panic sent the country;s oligarchs and mobsters scrambling to find a safe place to put their money. That October, just two months after the Russian economy went into a tailspin, Trump announced his biggest project yet. Rising to 72 stories in midtown Manhattan, Trump World Tower would be the tallest residential building on the planet. Construction got underway in 1999 just as Trump was preparing his first run for the presidency on the Reform Party ticket and concluded in 2001. As Bloomberg Buisnessweek reported earlier this year, it wasn't long before one-third of the units on the tower's priciest floors had been snatched up either by individual buyers from the former Soviet Union, or by limited liability companies connected to Russia. "We had big buyers from Russia and Ukraine and Kazakhstan, " sales agent Debra Stotts told Bloomberg.
the article continues on and on.

But the story of Donald Trump, self made business genius, left out any mention of the shady Russian investors who had done so much to make his comeback narrative possible (talking about the apprentice)


Deal after deal Trump made just appear to be too good to be true where he didn't have to do anything but put his name on a hotel that was financed by Russian money. Someone hands you money and all you have to do is put your name on it. Wouldn't you ask questions??

Whether Trump knew it or not, Russian mobsters and corrupt oligarchs used his properties not only to launder vast sums of money from extortion, drugs, gambling, and racketeering, but even as a base of operations for their criminal actives. In the process, they propped up Trump's business and enabled him to reinvent his image. Without the Russian mafia, it is fair to say, Donald Trump would not be president of the United States."


Conclusion of this article is basically that our country is now "pwned" by the Russian Mafia aka dirty Russian money.

Disgusting.
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Postby AlenushkaDew on September 29th, 2017, 7:07 pm 

How odd that he should use the end of the world as a metaphor for his own policy.
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Re: Married to the Mob

Postby Alizeh on October 16th, 2017, 8:36 am 

AlenushkaDew wrote:How odd that he should use the end of the world as a metaphor for his own policy.


hahahah I agree with you.
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Re: Russia used social media to polarize the USA

Postby zetreque on February 16th, 2018, 10:55 pm 

Will "President Chump" or "President patsy" catch on finally?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ap/553604/
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Re: Married to the Mob

Postby zetreque on February 16th, 2018, 11:01 pm 

Alizeh » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:36 am wrote:
AlenushkaDew wrote:How odd that he should use the end of the world as a metaphor for his own policy.


hahahah I agree with you.


And of course this post attracted trolling internet users with actual Russian and cryptic VPN IP addresses linked to a long defunct gaming company and overseas proxy servers...
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Re: Married to the Mob

Postby zetreque on February 16th, 2018, 11:37 pm 

I have a friend who has a personal account of the mob connections Chump dealt with in the concrete industry. I just now looked it up. Sure enough.

Trump swam in mob-infested waters in early years as an NYC developer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... af05fe28fb

In New York City, the mafia families ran what authorities called the “concrete club,” a cartel of contractors that rigged bids and squelched competition from outsiders. They controlled the Cement and Concrete Workers union and used members to enforce their rules.

Nearly every major project in Manhattan during that period was built with mob involvement, according to court records and the organized crime task force’s report. That includes Trump Tower, the glittering 58-story skyscraper on Fifth Avenue, which was made of reinforced concrete.

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The mob also played a role in the construction of Trump Plaza, the luxury apartment building on Manhattan’s East Side. The $7.8 million deal for concrete was reserved for S & A Concrete and its owners, court records show. The crime families did not advertise their role in S & A and the other contractors. But it was well known in the industry.


much more in that article.
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Re: Russia used social media to polarize the USA

Postby BadgerJelly on February 18th, 2018, 2:39 am 

zetreque » February 17th, 2018, 10:55 am wrote:Will "President Chump" or "President patsy" catch on finally?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ap/553604/


A 37-page indictment filed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Friday lays out the most detailed picture of how the Russian government sought to interfere in the 2016 election, meddling with voters to sow division in American society, and encouraging the election of Donald Trump in what the defendants referred to as “information warfare against the United States of America.”


And it is well known that no governments interfere with other countries policies except for Russia?

Seriously ... this is so silly.
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Re: Married to the Mob

Postby zetreque on February 18th, 2018, 2:42 am 

Yes it's silly that you obviously don't get what a poor choice people made in voting for Chump.
And it's silly that everyone is blaming everything else instead of facing reality.
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Re: Married to the Mob

Postby BadgerJelly on February 18th, 2018, 4:58 am 

zetreque » February 18th, 2018, 2:42 pm wrote:Yes it's silly that you obviously don't get what a poor choice people made in voting for Chump.
And it's silly that everyone is blaming everything else instead of facing reality.


Don't I?

Blaming everything else instead of taking on your positon and lying ALL the blame at the feet of Trump. If that is not what do you mean I'd like to hear what is you think people are "blaming" and who they should be "blaming."

I tend to find that generally people point and blame at anyone they can other than themselves.

If you cannot find something good, some light in the darkness, in those you choose to blame then I am almost certain a lot blame lies not in those you condemn, but in yourself.

Yeah, it's psychoanalysis. Maybe I am readin too much into the comments on this thread, maybe not. I think if you can outline the issue of "blame" and the "reality" we're likely going to agree for the most part.
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Re: Russia used social media to polarize the USA

Postby Braininvat on February 18th, 2018, 11:05 am 

BadgerJelly » February 17th, 2018, 11:39 pm wrote:
zetreque » February 17th, 2018, 10:55 am wrote:Will "President Chump" or "President patsy" catch on finally?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ap/553604/


A 37-page indictment filed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Friday lays out the most detailed picture of how the Russian government sought to interfere in the 2016 election, meddling with voters to sow division in American society, and encouraging the election of Donald Trump in what the defendants referred to as “information warfare against the United States of America.”


And it is well known that no governments interfere with other countries policies except for Russia?

Seriously ... this is so silly.


Having a foreign power interfere with your nation's electoral process is usually considered a hostile act. When its intent is to install a puppet leader, that is a cause for concern.
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Re: Russia used social media to polarize the USA

Postby Asparagus on February 18th, 2018, 9:22 pm 

Braininvat wrote:

Having a foreign power interfere with your nation's electoral process is usually considered a hostile act. When its intent is to install a puppet leader, that is a cause for concern.

How best to counter it? By joining in and doing it too?

But about 2.9 million more Americans voted for Clinton than for Trump. The electoral college system isn't Russia's fault.
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Re: Married to the Mob

Postby BadgerJelly on February 19th, 2018, 12:46 am 

Biv -

I am not saying it is not serious. I am saying that it is part and parcel of how global works and has always worked. The Russians are no more guilty than any other nation when it comes to inferring to foreign affairs - also, it should be worth noting that using social media to create political topics is neither illegal nor something carried out only by Russian people.

That is my point. My point here is generally to say that some things being posted here, and some opinions being voiced, are highly biased.
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Re: Married to the Mob

Postby zetreque on February 19th, 2018, 1:16 am 

BadgerJelly » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:46 pm wrote:Biv -

I am not saying it is not serious. I am saying that it is part and parcel of how global works and has always worked. The Russians are no more guilty than any other nation when it comes to inferring to foreign affairs - also, it should be worth noting that using social media to create political topics is neither illegal nor something carried out only by Russian people.

That is my point. My point here is generally to say that some things being posted here, and some opinions being voiced, are highly biased.


I think you are way off on your read of other people. I also think you are off on your perspective of the USA. I also think that what you and a few others are trying to point out regarding other countries and leaders is already obvious and pointless in the context of seriousness of current affairs.

I never cared about republican or democrat. It's been my stance my entire life that the parties are BS and it should come down to the best person to do the job. I think that's also the case for a couple other members on here but things are getting out of hand right now because of just how bad both parties have gotten. The Russia stuff is serious because if true it is dividing people when an intelligent person could easily switch parties for a candidate that they like. Trump is equally as evil as Russia because he is also full of division, lies, and inciting hate. Not to mention not taking serious the country he is president of.

Bias? Maybe we all have a bias for good and all the options currently are extraordinarily evil. Trump being the unwitting (maybe witting) king of all evil for anyone paying attention.
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