FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Anyone can post and discuss breaking news that interest them (please respect posting guidelines and be sure to reference properly).
Forum rules
Please be sure to check our forum's Rules & Guidelines

FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby toucana on January 18th, 2018, 5:58 pm 

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html

FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.

It is illegal to use foreign money to influence federal elections.

The NRA reported spending a record $55 million on the 2016 elections, including $30 million to support Trump – triple what the group devoted to backing Republican Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential race. Most of that was money was spent by an arm of the NRA that is not required to disclose its donors.

Two people with close connections to the powerful gun lobby said its total election spending actually approached or exceeded $70 million.
User avatar
toucana
Chatroom Operator
 
Posts: 1176
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Bristol UK
Blog: View Blog (7)


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby toucana on January 19th, 2018, 6:30 am 

According to his recently released testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, Glenn Simpson co-founder of Fusion GPS, the firm behind the controversial Steele dossier report, said he believes that the Russian Government has infiltrated the National Rifle Association.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/fusion-gps-house-nra-russians_us_5a6118f9e4b01d91b2542465

“I would say, broadly speaking, it appears that the Russian operation was designed to infiltrate conservative organizations .. They seem to have made a very concerted effort to get in with the NRA.” he told the committee.

Simpson described Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank as “a Russian banker-slash-Duma member-slash-Mafia leader” and “life member of the NRA.”

“And the thing I found, you know, the most absurd about this is that, you know,:[Russian President] Vladimir Putin is not in favor of universal gun ownership for Russians. And so it’s all a big charade, basically.”

The NRA did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
User avatar
toucana
Chatroom Operator
 
Posts: 1176
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Bristol UK
Blog: View Blog (7)


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby Braininvat on January 19th, 2018, 11:22 am 

I feel confident that Trump will find some pretty shiny car keys to dangle in front of us in the next few days, so that our infantile national attention span will drift away from this story.
User avatar
Braininvat
Forum Administrator
 
Posts: 6703
Joined: 21 Jan 2014
Location: Black Hills


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby toucana on January 19th, 2018, 1:22 pm 

User avatar
toucana
Chatroom Operator
 
Posts: 1176
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Bristol UK
Blog: View Blog (7)


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby zetreque on January 19th, 2018, 1:45 pm 

or maybe this attempt to spin it... What about releasing your Tax returns Mr. I'm not corrupt and not a pawn.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/369721-gop-reps-demand-release-of-shocking-surveillance-memo

Or how about the tweet where he is using white house privileged to go on a campaign trail.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/369543-white-house-denies-trumps-pennsylvania-trip-is-for-saccone-campaign
User avatar
zetreque
Forum Moderator
 
Posts: 3651
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Location: Paradise being lost to humanity
Blog: View Blog (3)


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby toucana on February 27th, 2018, 1:26 pm 

Delta_Tweet.png

Casey Cagle the Republican Lt. Governor of Georgia had a message for Delta Air Lines who are based in Atlanta. Basically the Governor is threatening to remove a lucrative tax-break on aviation jet fuel in retaliation for Delta's decision to sever its commercial relationship with the NRA and to cancel discounted fares that were previously available to NRA members.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-gop-leader-threatens-delta-over-cutting-its-nra-ties-n851496

Delta Air Lines is one of a dozen companies, including Metlife, Hertz, Avis, Enterprise, Best Western, Wyndham and United Airlines that have ended NRA partnerships since the recent school shooting in Parkland Florida.

The 'Morning Joe' show on MSNBC had one simple piece of advice for Georgia Governor Casey Cagle - "You might want to talk to the people in Connecticut about what happened there a couple of years ago with GEC"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlkI0C7YXa0

Suffice to say, GEC responded to local taxation hits of this type by moving their entire corporate HQ along with many thousands of jobs from Connecticut to Boston Massachusetts.

Delta Air Lines could easily move their entire hub operation to Dallas Fort Worth.
User avatar
toucana
Chatroom Operator
 
Posts: 1176
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Bristol UK
Blog: View Blog (7)


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby Braininvat on February 27th, 2018, 1:40 pm 

What's sad and desperate about that tweet is its notion that Delta is "attacking" conservatives. It is a private corporation that has made a decision to sever ties with an organization. They are ending a special privilege, not attacking anyone. Used to be conservatives who defended the rights of businesses to make their own decisions and let the free market operate freely. Guess those days are over.
User avatar
Braininvat
Forum Administrator
 
Posts: 6703
Joined: 21 Jan 2014
Location: Black Hills


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby BadgerJelly on February 27th, 2018, 1:57 pm 

Fibs invagination ran over rushing monkey wearing cuffs links?
User avatar
BadgerJelly
Resident Member
 
Posts: 5345
Joined: 14 Mar 2012


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby Watson on February 27th, 2018, 2:02 pm 

The NRA is a lot more stirred up over this latest massacre than previous shootings. Good to see the average persons opinion getting some traction. It has the NRA crowd reacting with such desperation. No surprise that people are speaking out about automatic weapons, including the students. The desperate reaction of the NRA is to label these students as, tragedy actors with a negative connotation.

It is nothing more than childish name calling.

I hope this latest movement to get some gun sense gets traction.
User avatar
Watson
Resident Member
 
Posts: 4619
Joined: 19 Apr 2009
Location: Earth, middle of the top half, but only briefly each 24 hours.


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby Braininvat on February 27th, 2018, 3:09 pm 

BadgerJelly » February 27th, 2018, 10:57 am wrote:Fibs invagination ran over rushing monkey wearing cuffs links?


The inventor of Auto-complete died. His funfair is next Monkey!
User avatar
Braininvat
Forum Administrator
 
Posts: 6703
Joined: 21 Jan 2014
Location: Black Hills


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby toucana on February 27th, 2018, 5:40 pm 

Some numerical context:

The total population of the USA is around 323 million
The number of gun owners in USA is thought to be around 75 million.
The number of registered NRA members in USA is a little over 4 million

(It is worth noting that an unknown proportion of the NRA memberships are actually inactive and unwanted gifts from friends and relatives).

It follows that NRA members represent just 5.3% of all gun owners in the USA, and just 1.2% of the US population as a whole.

Meanwhile on the subject of Alexander Torshin the Russian banker, Putin confidant, and honorary life member of the NRA featured earlier in this thread. - Here is a link to a lengthy article from the Spanish newspaper of record El Pais from April 2017 which goes into some detail about the attempts of the Spanish authorities to arrest Torshin during a scheduled visit to Mallorca in 2013.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/03/31/inenglish/1490984556_409827.html

The article makes it very clear that the Spanish anti-corruption prosecutor and the Civil Guard regarded Torshin as a godfather from a notorious Russian mafia organization known as the Taganskaya. They planned to arrest Torshin during a visit to another gangster called Alexander Romanov who had already been caught on on tape referring to Torshin as his 'boss' and 'capo'. Romanov was subsequently jailed for four years, but Torshin was tipped off and evaded the Spanish police.

Here is what the El Pais article had to say about the Taganskaya:
The formidable and powerful Taganskaya organization of which Torshin is allegedly part is recognized by the US and the EU information and intelligence services (including Europol and the FBI), according to the dossier about Torshin from the Spanish Civil Guard. Its activities include the appropriation of companies using violent or fraudulent methods, bank scams, extortion and the carrying out of contract killings.
User avatar
toucana
Chatroom Operator
 
Posts: 1176
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Bristol UK
Blog: View Blog (7)


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby toucana on March 5th, 2018, 11:21 am 

Dana_Loesch.png
Dana Loesch - NRATV Video

The NRA have released a new video on Twitter which threatens journalists and liberal media with the messsage “Time is running out”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nra-video-threatens-journalists-gun-laws-us-florida-shooting-twitter-dana-loesch-a8240341.html

The video is presented by NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch who was most recently in the news for assuring delegates at the extreme right-wing CPAC conference that “media networks love mass shootings..love weeping white mothers.”

Dressed in her best black Morticia Addams look-alike outfit, Dana Loesch deiivers her message in front of a black backdrop with menacing guitar music echoing in the background, She stands beside a table with a large sandglass standing on it, and at the climax of her peroration she turns it upside down with the words “Your time is running out, the clock starts now”.

The unspoken threat appears to be that the masses of hidden AR-15 toting NRA patriots will rise from the shadows and wreak hideous vengeance on anyone who is beastly to the NRA, or who questions the sanctity of the holy second amendment.

Meanwhile, Special counsel Robert Mueller’s staff are currently said to be investigating whether up to $70 million of Russian money was illegally laundered into Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign funds via the NRA which strongly supported Trump.

Prosecutors are said to be particularly interested in the role of Alex Torshin who is a prominent Russian banker, Putin confidant and alleged godfather of the Taganskaya mafia family. Torshin was installed as a life member of the NRA several years ago after becoming a close friend of a number of its former presidents and current leaders.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/590076949/depth-of-russian-politicians-cultivation-of-nra-ties-revealed
User avatar
toucana
Chatroom Operator
 
Posts: 1176
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Bristol UK
Blog: View Blog (7)


Re: FBI Investigate NRA Over Russian Money Links

Postby Braininvat on March 5th, 2018, 1:04 pm 

The unspoken threat seems to be, in essence, that the NRA is poised to become a terrorist organization. I'm sure they are laughing themselves silly in the Kremlin over all this.
User avatar
Braininvat
Forum Administrator
 
Posts: 6703
Joined: 21 Jan 2014
Location: Black Hills



Return to News Discussion Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot] and 24 guests