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Taking The 25th

Postby toucana on September 6th, 2018, 5:32 am 

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Sultan Ibrahim 1

In 1648, Sultan Ibrahim 1st (unofficially known as ‘Ibrahim The Mad’) was deposed and strangled by his own Janissary royal guards, becoming only the second regicide in the history of the Turkish Ottoman empire. He was pre-deceased by his utterly corrupt Grand Vizier who earned the posthumous nickname Hezarpare - (‘one thousand pieces’ ) after he was beaten to death and torn apart by an enraged mob a few days earlier.

Sultan Ibrahim had only survived into adult life long enough to become Sultan because he was deemed to be too mad ever to ascend the throne - rival heirs were normally imprisoned in the Kafes (cage) and murdered the moment a new Sultan ascended the throne.

Sultan Ibrahim who was addicted to sex with morbidly obese women celebrated finding the love of his life, a 30 stone belle nicknamed ’Sugarlump’ by installing her as his concubine and having the other 200 normal-size ladies of the imperial harem drowned in the Bosphorus. He started a disastrous and lengthy war with the Venetian empire, and demonstrated his grasp of economics by trying to feed gold coins to the carp in the fishponds of the imperial gardens.

I mention this anecdote in passing as an indication of quite how far back you have to reach into history to find a precedent for what seems to be happening in the US White House at this moment.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/06/politics/donald-trump-white-house/index.html

The stunning revelations in Bob Woodward’s forthcoming book ‘Fear: Trump in The White House’ appear to be confirmed by an even more disconcerting anonymous op-ed that has appeared in the New York Times called “ I Am Part of The Resistance Inside The Trump Administration’

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

"The root of the problem is the President's amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making," the unnamed official wrote in the staggering essay published by the Times.

The official even revealed there had even been talk among Cabinet officers about invoking the 25th Amendment to remove the President. Washington has seen almost everything under Trump, but a palace coup would be something else.


"There is somebody working for the President of the United States at a very senior level who is trying to destroy him," Michael Caputo, a former Trump campaign aide told CNN's Anderson Cooper.

CNN has concluded that “Washington is watching the opening act of an attempt to topple Trump”

Precisely who is behind the latest op-ed in the NYT ? Speculation is rife as to whether it is the handiwork of one person or several. But one clue can be found in the use of an unusual word that appears in the text which is ‘lodestar’.

Stylometric analysis discloses that this rare word has only previously appeared in the political rhetoric of VP Mike Pence.
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Re: Taking The 25th

Postby Braininvat on September 6th, 2018, 12:47 pm 

The use of the archaic 19th century term "lodestar" struck me as an obvious attempt at misdirection. Pence, who lives in the 19th century (he will not eat lunch with any woman but his wife) anyway, is an obvious target for being "set up" as the author of that ridiculous op-ed. The piece attempts to justify Right-wing policies that the administration has advanced (e.g. easing restrictions on predatory payday lenders) while suggesting that, rather than do the right thing and use Constitutional means to remove the POTUS, the WH staff can contain and chain up the demented toddler, acting as a crew of self-anointed superheroes who are "saving Democracy" or whatever. It's a self-serving bit of drivel that's really a way for all the rats to jump ship and distance themselves from Trump's awfulness when he does finally go down. And nothing in Woodward's book is news to anyone who has been watching the WH for the past two years. FFS, anyone who lived near New York knew that Trump was like this years ago.

Those who elected Trump and acted as his support team knew perfectly fucking well that they were hitching their star to a man who has long associated with mobsters, enforced racist policies in his casinos and real estate holdings, grabbed pudenda, bilked contractors, defrauded college students, and was a protege of Roy Cohn, famous lawyer to the New York Mob (and Sen. Joe McCarthy, before that!). You, "anonymous," are not a hero, you are a complicit coward.
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Re: Taking The 25th

Postby davidm on September 6th, 2018, 1:04 pm 

toucana » September 6th, 2018, 3:32 am wrote:
Precisely who is behind the latest op-ed in the NYT ? Speculation is rife as to whether it is the handiwork of one person or several. But one clue can be found in the use of an unusual word that appears in the text which is ‘lodestar’.

Stylometric analysis discloses that this rare word has only previously appeared in the political rhetoric of VP Mike Pence.


It’s not Pence. The intro to the piece states that the author wished to have his name withheld for fear of jeopardizing his job. Trump cannot fire Pence, so this would be a false statement by the Times. Every bit of this, including the intro, was pored over by the top Times editors and lawyers.
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Re: Taking The 25th

Postby Watson on September 6th, 2018, 3:29 pm 

I think it has to be more than one person, and more likely several. There would have to be the support system now, are more importantly when it becomes public who they are.
The trump is mentally unfit, but that does not excuse these actions. They betray the office of the President, and it is not up to staff to differentiate between the two.
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Re: Taking The 25th

Postby Braininvat on September 6th, 2018, 3:45 pm 

Right. If they really think he's incompetent, then notify Congress and assign a federal official or panel who can appoint an independent medical examination. Otherwise we the people are confined to asking our congressional reps to initiate articles of impeachment. All this nonsense (just like the nonsense last year when Michael Wolf's book came out) arises because Congress no longer does its duty to balance the power of the executive branch. It's all just partisan games now and making sure your team "wins. " Legislators now rarely legislate.
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