SciameriKen » April 13th, 2017, 2:50 pm
Greetings SP - I am not sure if this is your position or if you are merely representing the lay person - but why is there a need to invoke the "realms of god" if evolution cannot explain the origins? Sure to do so answers the question where did life come from - but that is it - where do we go from there? If we search for life on other planets will we look for signs that God was there? :D
Greetings to you too SciameriKen.
Good ID name bye-the way - assuming it reflects your real first name!
I briefly raised the point about God in response to the personalisation of a previous post which sought to make the issue 'my problem'. It isn't.
Having said that, as I made clear in a later response, we can all be challenged by people with religious beliefs and it is useful to know how to answer such points.
There are many grades of religious belief, and also many religions.
I am not concerned with that. I am interested in what can be reasonably demonstrated.
Science can determine facts, but these still have to be interpreted. We have to explain all facts because they never change - only our interpretations change. Equally, science has to work with philosophy because it is the disciplines of philosophy which help to structure our speculations about the unknown.... but the theorising always has to match the facts.
It is a fact that the Theory of Evolution doesn't demonstrably work before the first cell.
That will ultimately lead us to questions about spontaneity, randomness and the abilities of existence to set a direction, or even to design outcomes. Whether we talk about hidden properties of matter at the deeper levels of existence; other types of stuff; or indeed, God - there are certain logical steps/factors that have to be overcome and these generally point to certain capabilities. Whether you attribute them to God or something else is a personal choice... but the necessary capabilities seem to be required.
In my opinion the search for other life is not bound to the questions posed by the dilemmas of origin, but the issues of the 'origin of life' may help to reveal more about ourselves and the nature of the Universe we occupy.
The emergence of Life is a second point of apparently fundamental change. If so, that seems to require a spontaneous, random, or external influence.
If living things demonstrate a level of control, spontaneity, consciousness etc that cannot be explained by physical matter alone then something else may be involved. If it is something like another 'force' then we might use it. I suspect that we may have less success in trying to 'bottle God'. ):