BadgerJelly » 05 Dec 2016, 11:39 wrote:The question is in regard to physical laws. If we viewed our world rewinding, yet our cognition was working progressively, then would this drastically alter how we could interpret currently held phsyical laws?
I almost certainly misunderstood, as always, but Badger, aren't you suggesting a world where we disattach ourselves from laws of physics?
BadgerJelly » December 4th, 2016, 6:47 am wrote:You've probably heard thsi thought before.
No never cross my heart.
Let us say that time runs in the other direction
so that our view of rain is not that is falls from the sky but that it rises from the earth.
Amazing so far
So our view wouls be that rain is caused by "evaporation" and that mist is caused by "condensation".
Confused now. That's what happens in forwards land. So this land sometimes runs forward and sometimes backwards?
In this case gravity would be the force that causes rain to rise from the earth into the sky to form clouds which would then "condense" down into bodies of water.
I guess my question can be perceived as a little metaphysical here.
What's the question? Metaphysics - is a branch of philosophy investigating the fundamental nature of being and the world that encompasses it. Wikipedia ... Hmmm...
The question is would we view gravity as a force pushing matter apart?
Aah we have a question. Now that's a tough one. Sometimes it would be pushing it apart, in your backwards land, but sometimes it would be pulling it together, like with the rain.
it appears so. So inI this situation would we view gravity as not being strong enough to lift us from the earth.
It would shoot you out at 9.8 metres per second per second. Very soon you would disappear from this earth never to be seen again. But in your backwards land, where it sometimes runs forward, gravity might reverse, with grevious consequences.
Also thinking about this in regards to centrifugal force it seems that this would be reversed and appear as gravoty does to us now in many respects.
Well since there is no centrifugal force, I guess reversing it would not be so serious. Cant imagine how it could suddenly appear as gravity. Your backwards land is indeed mystical and strange. This is better than Narnia or Harry Potter and the Chamber of secrets.
Assuming, somehow we could still appreciate causal sequence we could effectively know the "future" by rcognising a broken item and see destruction as a sign of making something.
Yep. Suicide bombers would be hailed as compassionate hereos.
These ponderous thoughts have gotten me thinking about our bias "being".
Of course I understand that if physical laws suddenly change and we have reverse entropy then our very physical being will also operate within these laws.
Entropy is just a quantity. What is reverse entropy?
So we would not think towards the past merely reverse our direction and blindly succumb to reversed entropy not remain as a special case out of the loop.
This has got me completely out of the loop
What has gotten me thinking about this is "entropy" in general. I am very interested in what physicists think about entropy in regards to cognition and natural laws. Meaning how entropy varies from system to system and the "possibility" that in some subtle ways entropy may actually be said to "reverse" and that our cognitive capacity impells us to regard such an idea as inherantly illogical and therefore "false".
I am still thinking. Do we have to answer true or false? Or can we answer maybe?
I admit this is an incomplete thought and I am sure we've all played with some strange thoughts in order to gain a different perspective on how nature "functions".
Yep. I had some strange thoughts just the other day.
Okay ... Move to metaphysics maybe? Leave that decision up to you lot :)
So at the heart of it all I am not asking so much about where we are now in our ongoing human investigations and what we can do with what we've got, but where we've come from, what we've potentially overlooked that could be of use to us and whether we can "reach back" and, considering I view this as impossible (other may argue otherwise), how best to approximate such an operation.
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