- Thermal fluctuations in the unitary Schrodinger wave,
- Quantization of energy during emission.
hyksos » April 15th, 2017, 6:28 pm wrote:Convince me that our universe does actually contain intrinsic, indeterminable randomness embodied directly in its base underlying fabric. And that this randomness is not merely "apparent" to an observer measuring a system.
we tell to impose order on the randomness.
hyksos » April 16th, 2017, 11:47 am wrote:Explain yourself. How can anyone with a scientific mind resort so easily to magical explanations?
someguy1 » April 16th, 2017, 10:44 pm wrote:hyksos » April 16th, 2017, 11:47 am wrote:Explain yourself. How can anyone with a scientific mind resort so easily to magical explanations?
It seems to me that the person looking up and seeing Orion the hunter aiming a bow at his prey is the one invoking magical explanations for what is essentially a random phenomenon. There's no hunter in the sky, just a coincidental pattern that can only be seen from a certain distance in a certain direction.
I asked you how you know that modern science isn't the same. I didn't see you engage with the question.
hyksos » April 16th, 2017, 3:22 pm wrote:YOu say magical random fairies exist and blow random bubbles into our universe.
hyksos » April 16th, 2017, 5:01 pm wrote:Are you adopting the position that random Oracle functions physically exist?
someguy1 » April 17th, 2017, 2:01 am wrote:hyksos » April 16th, 2017, 3:22 pm wrote:YOu say magical random fairies exist and blow random bubbles into our universe.
I have said no such thing.
I said that I sacrificed a goat to Orion and subsequently had a good harvest, showing that the constellations are meaningful and not random. I've asked you to tell me why modern science is any different. Perhaps I actually know why science is different but I'm curious to find out if you do. This all seems really pointless. You're on a hobby horse and you want to argue with me about something, I don't know what or why. I have no argument with you and no disagreement that I know of, except that I don't think of myself as being privy to the secrets of the universe and you do. I envy you your certainty.
Braininvat » April 16th, 2017, 6:59 pm wrote:Enough, already. No need to make everything personal. Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if it's not the one you were fishing for. And yes, Hyksos, you've succeeded in goading SomeGuy to be rude back at you ("I don't think of myself as being privy to the secrets of the universe and you do...."). Not a success to be proud of. Any more of this garbage and the threads will be locked.
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