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Clock's time

Postby socrat44 on November 6th, 2020, 8:09 pm 

Clock's time
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After Newton's work the world was accepted as a mechanism
of clock which showed exactly time to everybody.
After Quantum development Newton's mechanical world
''has gone crazy'', because the clock became very strange
1 - two observers looking at the same clock saw different time
2 - the clock never showed the exact time
This clock enigma brought Physics to the philosophical reflections,
whose solution has not yet been found
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Re: Clock's time

Postby charon on November 7th, 2020, 12:18 am 

Proves you can't beat nature, old son :-)
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Re: Clock's time

Postby socrat44 on November 7th, 2020, 3:08 am 

charon » November 7th, 2020, 12:18 am wrote:Proves you can't beat nature, old son :-)



Proves, nature was existed before the first neanderthal scientist was born
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Re: Clock's time

Postby curiosity on November 7th, 2020, 8:29 pm 

Relativity... Don't you just love it. Takes a while to really understand it though!
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Re: Clock's time

Postby socrat44 on November 8th, 2020, 2:41 am 

curiosity » November 7th, 2020, 8:29 pm wrote:Relativity... Don't you just love it. Takes a while to really understand it though!


You cannot understand '' Relativity '' without Quantum Physics
SRT + QP = one subject
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Re: Clock's time

Postby socrat44 on November 8th, 2020, 4:07 am 

Quantum Theory Rebuilt From Simple Physical Principles
Physicists are trying to rewrite the axioms of quantum theory from scratch in an effort to understand what it all means. The problem? They’ve been almost too successful.
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Scientists have been using quantum theory for almost a century now, but embarrassingly they still don’t know what it means. An informal poll taken at a 2011 conference on Quantum Physics and the Nature of Reality showed that there’s still no consensus on what quantum theory says about reality — the participants remained deeply divided about how the theory should be interpreted.
Some physicists just shrug and say we have to live with the fact that quantum mechanics is weird. So particles can be in two places at once, or communicate instantaneously over vast distances? Get over it. After all, the theory works fine. If you want to calculate what experiments will reveal about subatomic particles, atoms, molecules and light, then quantum mechanics succeeds brilliantly.
But some researchers want to dig deeper. They want to know why quantum mechanics has the form it does, and they are engaged in an ambitious program to find out. It is called quantum reconstruction, and it amounts to trying to rebuild the theory from scratch based on a few simple principles.


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Re: Clock's time

Postby socrat44 on November 10th, 2020, 2:59 pm 

   Brief story how the ''Quantum of action'' was forced on Physics
   ''It was an act of desperation'' / Max Planck /
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In 1900, two formulas were known for thermal radiation ( Rayleigh–Jeansfor for long and Wien's for short wavelengths) and that is seemed strange to physicists. One of Planck's colleagues  showed him these ''strange'' formulas . . . and Planck found a fairly simple solution. . . . Planck united together these two different formulas  and then divided them. He was himself very surprised when the result was found correct. . . . The formula worked perfectly and gave correct radiation intensity at every frequency. Maybe some thousands of physicists were satisfied with this result as the end of searching. But the great Max Planck asked himself:  ''Why is the formula correct? '',  ''What does the result mean?''. And in his Nobel Lecture given on 2 June 1920, Planck described  how he made his discoveries: '' . . . eventually after some weeks of the hardest work of my life, light entered the darkness, and a new inconceivable perspective opened up before me. ... ''  The result was – quantum of action (as energy multiplied time: h=Et). The coefficient (h) was neither in the Rayleigh–Jeansfor nor in the Wien's formulas. Planck took unit (h) as in some books are written:  "intuitively, instinctively, phenomenological" . . . . Planck didn't explain ''where did the (h) come from?''  . . . He took (h)  '' from heaven '' . . . as later he said it was ''an act of desperation''  . . . Many years Planck tried to explain (h) from a classical point of view . . . but without success . . . At first the theory met  resistance, . . .  later  the existence of (h) was proved by other physicists .  . . . but even today we cannot say that we know the (h) essence.
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Re: Clock's time

Postby curiosity on November 16th, 2020, 10:00 pm 

I'm afraid your knowledge of theorems based on may-be and could-be with a liberal dose of possibly doesn't really amount to much. Hard facts and testable theories are what is required! Ten out of ten for imagination though.
With reference to another of your posts... even though there is no supporting evidence for their existence, Do you really believe that dark matter and gravitons exist?
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Re: Clock's time

Postby socrat44 on November 17th, 2020, 2:55 pm 

curiosity » November 16th, 2020, 10:00 pm wrote: Do you really believe that dark matter and gravitons exist?



Of course . . . about 95% of all matter in the Cosmic space
is dark-virtual-quantum matter and energy and ''gravitons'' are part of them
(only about 5% in the Cosmic Space is ordinary matter)
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Re: Clock's time

Postby curiosity on November 18th, 2020, 9:25 pm 

I hate to be the bearer of bad news socrat44, but the existence of gravitons is mere hypothesis, as is the existence of dark matter. neither is there an accepted theory of quantum gravity, as the means by which matter curves space-time is still not understood.

These problems can likely be attributed to a misunderstanding of the nature of gravity which could probably be rectified by revaluating what is thought to be the cause of gravitation. I don't personally believe gravitation is a property of matter, rather it is caused by a perturbation of dark energy due to the proximity of matter.
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Re: Clock's time

Postby socrat44 on November 25th, 2020, 5:11 am 

curiosity » November 18th, 2020, 9:25 pm wrote: I don't personally believe gravitation is a property of matter, rather it is caused by a perturbation of dark energy due to the proximity of matter.


1915, Einstein, GRT . . . Gravity is an effect of masses and energy
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