Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence?

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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby Eclogite on January 30th, 2016, 1:08 pm 

tonylang » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:20 pm wrote:The point of this entire post is to present the idea that life is individuality.
I understand that is your intention. My point is that you have offered nothing in support of any of your assertions that in any way supports your thesis. In the absence of these, calling your notion a theory, a hypothesis, or even a speculation, is precipitate.

Do you intend to offer any evidence?

tonylang » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:20 pm wrote: At first evidence as always is in short supply for any invasive idea about the workings of nature, but that is as it must be.
Really? So, you expect members to give even passing consideration to your idea when that idea lacks any evidence? I'm not sure whether that is arrogant, or simply foolish. I strongly recommend you offer something of substance in support of the idea, other than circular arguments, personal opinions and vacuous verbosity.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby DragonFly on January 30th, 2016, 1:44 pm 

If a universe with life could happen, as it has, then it could happen again. Does one's particular life happen only once? It looks that way, even if someone similar to you appears again, which depends on how fine the resolution of the universe is, but at any rate, it seems you couldn't be able to remember your previous incarnation, although it wouldn't be all that different from getting amnesia in your current life.

That life took so long to form seems to indicate that life wasn't the primary aim, and perhaps there was no purpose at all.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby Eclogite on January 31st, 2016, 5:45 am 

DragonFly » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:44 pm wrote:That life took so long to form seems to indicate that life wasn't the primary aim, and perhaps there was no purpose at all.
This is possibly off topic, but your comment here was interesting.

First, I would suggest questions of purpose are matters of philosophy and not science and tony appears to be proposing a scientific hypothesis, rather than a philosophical one.

And - just a thought - given the probable eventual age of the universe life actually arose almost at the beginning.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on January 31st, 2016, 1:27 pm 

Nature cannot be assigned the property of purpose. Nature doesn’t implement individuality in the manner in which a cognitive species such as a human might. However the ubiquitous natural universal process of instantiating a living being in any given environment ought to be quantifiable and understandable and may be described in terms of natural cause and effect. So how does the natural process of instantiating a living being resolve which QEF, who’s QEF is entangled to cell-1? Whose first person position-of-view, whose being, exists first, second, third etc. Clearly life doesn’t seem to us to be sequential but how can we know for certain?

As a thought experiment, consider that Earths’ hypothetical Cell-1 undergoes mitosis and creates a cell-2. According to the ILNE (LINE) hypothesis both must necessarily entangle stem-metamatter since at that time there can be no metamatter in existence which was imprinted by host species from Earths' virgin ecosystem as there would as yet have been no deinstantiation (Decoherence of an emerged individual), no death. Death is necessary to provide disentangled imprinted metamatter for future generations of life in any ecosystem. Further if cell-2 later divides to create a new cell; cell-3 before cell-1 dies then cell-3 will, as did its two living relatives, also entangle any viable host to stem-metamatter to instantiate yet another original POV never before instantiated in this or perhaps any ecosystem in this universe. Why? Because Cell-1, if it is anything like a modern cell, likely has a mechanism like DNA to transfer its hosts' design information physically generationally and so each host offspring, each relative, be it familial, spicial, or ecological, imprints upon metamatter with a diverging degree of similarity. All of this coherent cellular and QEF state information stored in metamatter attracts future generations of genetically similar hosts to entangle this metamatter. Presumably as is usually the case the individual is unaware of any of this as are even complex species such as present day human beings.

Alternatively, consider if cell-1 instead had disentangled, died before cell-2 divided to produce cell-3, then the LINE hypothesis suggests that this newly minted host (cell 3, grandchild of cell-1) would be more likely to reinstantiate its bygone relatives' QEF (QEF-1). Host cell-1 and 3 are in this scenario generationally, physically related due to their common DNA, and cell-1 over the course of its lifetime has imprinted metamatter, as do all living entities, with information from both their physical component (DNA etc.) and also from its’ unique entangled degrees-of-freedom (QEF-1). The QEF is not part of the cell nor is it an aspect of metamatter it is of the entanglement spectrum. The entanglement spectrum exists as a distinct implementation of nature with properties, characteristics and degrees-of-freedom which define it as such, not unlike the electromagnetic spectrum. These three elements of nature operate in concert to make individuality and life possible and mobile (teleportable) in this universe.

QEF-1 now uninstantiated and unentangled, mediated by the monogamistic rules of quantum coherent interaction becomes available universally for future instantiation with viable hosts. So cell-3 (grandchild of deceased cell-1) with DNA more compatible with deceased cell-1's existing residual metamatter imprint than not, will more readily attract or enter into an entangled state at cell-1’s QEF-1 and its existing recently disentangled metamatter in lieu of widely available stem-metamatter. So the individual, the POV that instantiated previously to host cell-1 is now reinstantiated to its own offspring host cell-3. The possibility of familial reinstantiation is likely highly dependent upon the actual resolution of the theorized imprinting upon metamatter by the living cell. For familial reinstantiation ones fidelity of teleportation may need to be above some pivotal value (i.e. .75 or greater above the classical limit), any lower and only species and inter-species entanglement may become likely.

Nonetheless, Cell-3 the individual the world sees as the grandchild of deceased cell-1 could once again host POV-1. Such is the nature of life. It is only when there are no compatible imprinted and simultaneously disentangled metamatter and compatible hosts available that a newly emerged host will entangle stem-metamatter to establish an original (to this ECO system) position-of-view. In nature the laws of conservation mandate that every interaction has an effect and induces a change in its participants. Whether or not we can sense, measure or understand the interaction or the effect it produces. On human scales the gentlest touch transfers heat, induces friction, deformation etc. Electromagnetism changes the atoms and electrons it interacts with or there would be no electronics. A subatomic particle entangled with another or with others interact regardless of distance or time (even when in different temporal frames of reference). By this natural mechanism metamatter, ones non-corporeal life-matter if you will, is changed as it entangles with your cells over the course of each lifetime.

By this process individuality emerges in otherwise inanimate matter and gives rise to a living being that has either never lived in this ecosystem before or may have never lived in this universe previously, The implications for individuals currently instantiated on Earth, as in any viable ecosystem, are that ones future place (reinstantiation) in this eco-system is all but guaranteed barring some global scale catastrophe which erases all life on earth leaving only the possibility of reinstantiation elsewhere, barring such a catastrophe the entire DNA pool of earth-life will attract your QEF to available metamatter to host you once again.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby Eclogite on January 31st, 2016, 1:32 pm 

tonylang, this is a discussion forum, not a blog. Please respond appropriately to the points I have raised. Specifically, how about some evidence.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby DragonFly on January 31st, 2016, 2:47 pm 

Eclogite » January 31st, 2016, 4:45 am wrote:And - just a thought - given the probable eventual age of the universe life actually arose almost at the beginning.


We might rather measure life's rate versus a star's lifetime. Our sun has a few billion useable years left.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on February 7th, 2016, 12:05 pm 

As The scientifically alert are well aware, in science there is no proof of any theory. There is only an accumulation of relevant information. If the preponderance of such relevant information leads a critical mass of individuals (or a mass of a few critical individuals) to deduce, feel, or simply believe that the relevant theory may be accurate within its measured scope, then that theory is promoted from then on, to the accepting masses, as a good theory.

Acquiring information that is relevant to any naturally invasive idea first requires an understanding of that hypotheses’ proposals by individuals uniquely situated to gather the data of interest. This always occurs in its own time, its own decade, even in its own century. Insistence upon immediate proof or evidence of a theory is always an emotional outcry which for an idea such as this is never in short supply. The first and only currently available exhibit of evidence for the LINE hypothesis is you.

Assuming one understands this, then the information you actually seek is that which disproves the LINE hypothesis in this universe. It is simply my contention that no such evidence will ever be found. As did many others, I too leave it to perpetuity to scientifically prove the instantiation of life by natural entanglement to be inaccurate.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on April 3rd, 2016, 8:35 am 

How does a living being with the capacity to do so begin to determine ones future prospects for life after death? The LINE hypothesis suggests it is via the determination of ones’ fidelity of teleportation (FT), a little understood but very real property of quantum information transference which is one metric that governs the instantiation of a living individual. It is the mechanism which the LINE hypothesis describes as the natural process that distributes individuality throughout this universe and likely throughout nature. Estimates of one’s FT is perhaps the value most important to any living being capable of fathoming its importance, no doubt followed closely by the value of ones QEF.

The FT value describes the accumulated probabilities that will influence an individuals’ next instantiation. There are always going to be uncertainties involved in determining ones reinstantiation prospects but generally some of these influences can reasonably be assumed to be constant. Factors such as the assumed persistence of conditions for life within earths ecosystem, and thereby the likelihood of the continuation of ones current species, ones DNA line. Extinction being a fundamental aspect of host evolution is an eventuality that may be generally deferred for such a consideration. Factors such as the proliferation and similarity of ones’ existing familial DNA as well as lifespan species and near-species population, also volume and resolution of imprinted metamatter may all be more dynamic factors relevant to ones FT value and reinstantiation prospects. Ones prospects for reinstantiation describes what host form, or species an individual might entangle in ones next life. Where one entangles that form depends entirely on where such compatible hosts are located in this universe.

Each currently living individual has more likely than not undergone numerous instantiations and lived many lives, many presumably may have entangled hosts right here on earth. Earth being the only known ecosystem with hosts for life that are compatible with your current indigenous earth form, whatever that form may be. Some day the Moon or Mars may become seeded, non-original bastions for earth life. This makes Earth a factory of imprinted metamatter and therefore a powerful attractor, if not the only existing attractor, for the reinstantiation of any being currently alive on Earth. Given that ones metamatter imprint is expected to lose its resolution over time spent uninstantiated, compatibility with hosts that emerge in extraterrestrial ecosystems becomes increasingly possible over time. Other ecosystems that emerged on other planets or in other viable environments in nature will host living forms with different indigenous designs, however the one common mechanism for life is the entanglement molecule, responsible for the QE connection to and the imprinting of that unique design upon metamatter.

Familial reinstantiation may be most desirable to the individual, whether consciously by enlightened consideration or only subconsciously by genetic evolution, but may nonetheless be a very high bar to expect of a pervasive universal natural process such as natural entanglement. Even if, in nature, familial reinstantiation is possible the frequency of it actually occurring may be quite low, or tenuous absent synthetic intervention. Factors competing for influence of the reinstantiation process are in nature likely to be quite aggressive and disruptive to the delicate resolution required for predictable, forecastable familial DNA entanglement. More frequent in nature may be the occurrence of species and near species reinstantiations. Particularly for species with many large populations of close genetic variations simultaneously in existence such as beetles, finches, or cichlids. Further, in natural settings, distance although irrelevant to the coherent information teleportation of natural entanglement, remains a very real obstacle to genetic proliferation across space-time. After all in the entire history of earth life the number of viable hosts that have left Earths ecosystem are negligible at best. Most may never even have left their landmass or lake of origin. Hence the LINE hypothesis predicts the probability of reinstantiating in ones current planetary ecosystem to be quite high due to the localization of corporeal genetic material that is similar to ones existing imprinted metamatter. It is obviously possible for ones QEF to entangle hosts indigenous to other original ecosystems in this universe but the probabilities involved with such stem-metamatter instantiations are comparatively very low, very unlikely, requiring the passage of relatively long spans of time. Of course to the individual any span of time uninstantiated is inconsequential since the uninstantiated individual QEF is removed from space-time and devoid of experience.

The specific implications for human culture and survival of understanding the actual natural mechanism for the mobility of individuality in this universe is unpredictable but will be profound. Humankind up to now has essentially suffered from a form of existential dislocation syndrome. The result of appearing in a place for a time with the capacity to comprehend ones own existence but with a deficit of ideas and information adequate for realizing the natural mechanism governing ones presence, ones being, ones position-of-view. This deficit fosters erroneous ideas of life, species, and self, leading to destructive and unfulfilling self-actualization schemes such as intolerant religions, scientific over-extrapolation, bigotry, and speciesism which corrode social and ecological cohesion necessary for the survival of a species such as humankind.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby Eclogite on April 3rd, 2016, 12:51 pm 

tonylang wrote:As The scientifically alert are well aware, in science there is no proof of any theory. There is only an accumulation of relevant information. If the preponderance of such relevant information leads a critical mass of individuals (or a mass of a few critical individuals) to deduce, feel, or simply believe that the relevant theory may be accurate within its measured scope, then that theory is promoted from then on, to the accepting masses, as a good theory.
Translation: theories can never be proven.

tonylang wrote:Acquiring information that is relevant to any naturally invasive idea first requires an understanding of that hypotheses’ proposals by individuals uniquely situated to gather the data of interest. This always occurs in its own time, its own decade, even in its own century. Insistence upon immediate proof or evidence of a theory is always an emotional outcry which for an idea such as this is never in short supply. The first and only currently available exhibit of evidence for the LINE hypothesis is you.
Translation: I don't have any evidence. It's up to you.

tonylang wrote:Assuming one understands this, then the information you actually seek is that which disproves the LINE hypothesis in this universe. It is simply my contention that no such evidence will ever be found. As did many others, I too leave it to perpetuity to scientifically prove the instantiation of life by natural entanglement to be inaccurate.
Translation: I know I am right and this will become evident in the future.

Unfortunately, even as a "personal theory", it strikes me as pretty weak. And in the absence of evidence it is certainly not science.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on April 16th, 2016, 2:12 pm 

The structure, evolution and extinction of living forms in any ecosystem can and should be investigated and understood for the survival, betterment and quality of life for all individuals in such ecosystems. However when the description of ones form clouds the understanding of ones individuality in this universe, science itself then becomes an inhibitor to scientific enlightenment and a harbinger of ignorance.

The really interesting question isn’t; can living hosts emerge in this universe? To that we already know the answer. The really interesting question is; can the individual, you, emerge elsewhere in this universe or elsewhere in nature writ large. The barrier to answering or even understanding this question is the false knowledge had by most that you are fundamentally defined by the cells, the matter that compose your host form, your body. Not realizing that like all living individuals, cellular and multi-cellular alike, your current life, your current instantiation is a temporary arrangement of natural law that allow another more permanent perhaps immutable natural entity that is the entanglement spectrum, when convenient to entangle metamatter with any available viable form that happens to emerge somewhere, anywhere in this universe or in existence. Further, and more urgently barring the availability of conclusive supporting empirical evidence of this reality, any suggestion that such an implementation can be purely natural and not at all supernatural, is met with calcified objection. While it is not the mission of the LINE hypothesis to agree or disagree with any particular point of view it fully disputes Vitalisim only to the extent that Vitalism arguably harbors ideas of a supernatural component to life. The LINE hypothesis presents a fully natural though not entirely ‘physical’ implementation for life and individuality.

Clearly species, living hosts, like all physical entities in this universe are fundamentally (even not so fundamentally) facades, manifestations of a non-physical entity, electromagnetism. Hence, and quite ironically the position held by so many that life is somehow completely ‘physical’ and does not involve elements that are decidedly non-physical are extremely misguided. Nature makes no such distinctions humankind tends to. The entanglement spectrum is the medium (physical or not) by which individuality is permeated throughout this universe. Species (another term for Earth-life) are but Earths brand of living hosts and are one component of this natural universal implementation of mobile, teleportable individuality.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on May 16th, 2016, 1:11 pm 

The search for the entanglement cell (EC) will require the isolation and identification of critical regions of cells that may be refereed to as ‘Follicle regions’. Follicle regions in this context describes isolated diminutive groups of cells which when sufficiently disrupted appears to cause the termination of the subject in a manner difficult to distinguish from genuine EC termination. EC (Entanglement cells) being the most fundamental physical implementation of individuality of an emerged composite being, disruption of EC exclusively is hypothesized to result in disentanglement to metamatter which is deinstantiation, individual death.

Follicle regions may actually contain EC, or alternatively only cells whose function is critical to systemic function not unlike cells of the heart or liver only whose role is much less obvious. Determining which of these two possibilities is the case will require the investigation to focus on each follicle group of cells by a process of elimination to reduce the group to the barest minimum of effective follicle cells within the group and then to trace and definitively determine how those remaining follicle cells contribute to host termination.

For each follicle group this process should always lead either to the determination and identification of yet another indirect cause of death or to the discovery of the presence of genuine EC within the follicle group. These EC will be those, one or more cells which contribute only and exclusively to the observed subject termination. This process requires the discounting (not subjecting to disruption) of those cells which either cause intermediate damage to other host systems or do not directly cause host termination.
Subject termination due to EC candidate cells within the follicle group must not result in any premortem cellular disruption (non-necrotic) physically or functionally to any region outside of the follicle group. Ergo, death without damage.

Approved subjects (flies, nematodes etc.) chosen for this process may need to be high fidelity clones in order to provide the required consistent physical structure and predictable systemic cellular distribution. This is so the process of elimination may continue unabated with minimal loss of progress as subjects are terminated and new test subjects are needed to continue the investigation. Further, subjects may not need to be fully formed individuals but may be sufficiently developed living embryonic forms. Subjects viable for testing but not viable by current definitions, for independent growth.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on June 13th, 2016, 9:53 pm 

Unlike basic unconsciousness, being under surgical anesthesia is one condition which outwardly renders the living human individual in a state closest to the isolation described by the absence of behavior and experience associated with the conceptual disembodied position-of-view (POV) known as the LifeID. The LINE hypothesis suggests that in nature the POV exists exclusively as the natural entanglement between a viable host form located anywhere in space-time with metamatter at unique degrees-of-freedom (DOF) known as ones immutable QEF. However it is conceptually and mathematically useful at times to refer to the POV as a separate entity. The term coined by the LINE hypothesis for the disembodied POV is the LifeID. The closest cultural meme to the LifeID come via religions throughout human history having referred to this, using one word or another, as the soul.


The lifeID is a specific instantiation of ones immutable DOF of the entanglement spectrum and always serves in the same capacity to position one particular individual in space and time. While under anesthesia it is only elements of this emerged individuals’ host body (i.e. brain function) that is in a suspended anesthetized state. However, so too is the individual POV deprived of the experience normally centered upon it by its hosts’ functions. While the trillions of other living beings , the cells of ones’ living host, whose own instantiations although unique, being in nature no less than your own, continue to function to keep your POV entangled and you alive. Make no mistake a human being under proper surgical anesthesia may be no closer to disentanglement than one not under that influence. Of course like any medication, improper administration may cause damage which could lead to deinstantiation.


So how do we know that when an individual under surgical anesthesia is revived they are in fact the same individual? That while under this altered state, or other similar conditions (i.e. revived death events) the individuals position-of-view may not have in fact disentangled and that perhaps a new entanglement at a different QEF did not occur? This question is posed not from the perspective of the outside world since there can be no change in behavior or appearance or any classical means by which the emerged composite entangled state maintained by the EC can be detected, but rather is asked from the sedated individual’s first person perspective.
Nonetheless, there again, with no persistent memory of one’s past lives the instantiated individual can only know what they are told and what their current entangled host form describes physically, behaviorally and cognitively.


In other words one could never tell if you were instantiated to a different host (or none at all) after sedation than you were before. All of the memories described by your physical host will tell you, that you were always this individual even if you were not. Nonetheless, in this regard the LINE hypothesis suggests that the establishment, via a type of heterodyning, of the emerged individual’s LifeID and instantiated position-of-view occurs naturally only as ones’ entanglement cells (EC) formed sometime after conception during the gestation period of your host form and cannot be classically disrupted or infiltrated later in life without forfeit of the entangled state, which is deinstantiation, death. Ergo; if the subject lives there is no natural means by which spontaneous reinstantiation may occur, therefore the hosts original EC instantiated degrees-of-freedom (QEF) persists.


The point being that with this deep suspension of effective communicative, cognitive, and experiential faculties, ergo behavior, which too often cloud our understanding of individuality, not only does life persist but more interestingly so does individuality. In so doing the living state of the individual is brought closer to the initial and fundamental state of all life, which is the state of the POV. The POV is the standing quantum wave initiated by ones entanglement cells and is the most fundamental universally mobile living manifestation of you. Devoid of this natural arrangement there is no emerged individuality or life in ones holistic host body (even while all of its non-EC cells may remain instantiated and alive.). Nor is there life in ones QEF, nor in ones imprinted metamatter. For each are by themselves inanimate natural entities which together, through the amazing process of natural entanglement, establish individuality and life. This state reveals the condition of the POV as presence not experience. The POV is hypothesized to be the most fundamental, naturally teleportable feature of individuality possessed by all living entities. Experience though very interesting in its own right, is in fact an evolved embellishment of living hosts acquired as living instantiated beings genetically improve their survival prospects while seeking to break the isolation intrinsic to the instantiated LifeID known as the POV by evolving host systems and skills which enhance contact, communication, and experience.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on July 15th, 2016, 8:32 am 

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Within this space-time we are all too familiar with aspects of matter which are exclusionary in nature, that is, properties which enforce a singleton behavior to the way all matter based entities occupy this space-time. In short no two objects can occupy the same space at the same time. When you plug a video cable into a video port on the back of your PC that port becomes occupied and cannot be re-occupied until you remove the current connection freeing the port, freeing the space-time it occupies for future connections. This behavior is taken for granted by our interpretation of reality. Even in circumstances that may seem to defy this behavior it doesn’t. For example two glasses of water poured into a vase may seem to occupy the same space at the same time but make no mistake even the molecules and atoms that compose this and every other fluid jostle each other and also any pollen grains in their midst for a singleton position in space-time. A thorough description of this behavior served Albert Einstein well when it earned him a Nobel Prize in 1921 for his paper on Brownian Motion.

Such exclusionary behavior exists throughout nature in many different implementations and yet, not in others. For example electromagnetism is famously nonexclusive in sharing or exposing its quantifiable degrees-of-freedom such as frequency, wavelength, polarization, intensity etc.. Otherwise we would all have to take turns enjoying our favorite stations on our fancy TV and radio sets. Electromagnetism travels outward from its source in waves and is constrained by the Higgs field to travel at or below the speed of light yet its DOF’s and the valuable information encoded therein simultaneously pervade the propagating waveform as it travels through space-time. Like all thing s in nature the specific magnitudes of these properties imprinted on the waveform immediately begin to circum to the laws of nature so distance or weather may become may effect reception of you TV signal. Likewise the aspect of instantiation of the individual life responsible for the mobility of individuality in this space-time share exclusionary features that are similar to matter even if in an unfamiliar implementation. Ones QE connection (the LINE’s in the depiction) to metamatter in Hilbert-space (the white area in the depiction) is similarly exclusionary in its behavior as it entangles your living host form wherever viable forms emerges in this universe (the cosmic disc in the depiction) . Each LINE is a unique value among the infinite possibilities of the DOF’s of the entanglement spectrum (a property of Hilbert-space). One of these LINE’s belong to you, it always has and it likely always will, at least as long as Hilbert-space exists as it currently does.

Via natural entanglement ones LINE may non-relativistically connect any viable host in this universe with any metamatter in Hilbert-space (little circle at the ends in the depiction). And like matter or the cable on the back of your PC cannot be shared but must be terminated before a new entanglement a new instantiation a new life is established. This is the monogamistic, singleton or exclusionary nature of life. It is why one must die to instantiate anew. Which particles of metamatter or of matter are involved or their location in this universe is completely inconsequential as both are completely transient, which is what makes it so ridiculous to think matter is what defines ones individuality. Any matter and any metamatter will do just fine. Of course what any species may care most about is its form at least at first. So what influences may be brought to bear on this implementation to offer beings like us some semblance of control over our own instantiations? Ones entangled metamatter in Hilbert-space and matter in this universe is nonspecific and are currently biased toward a specific QEF only by circumstances that are quite arbitrary in nature. Nonetheless are governed and mediated by the rules of monogamy of entanglement and also by whatever influences happen to arise that might affect ones Fidelity of teleportation (FT) and metamatter imprint.

This mutual tuning of the Alice and Bob components of individuality is the only means by which any possible control may be exacted. Though the entanglement spectrum must have existed for time untold even before the big-bang, this bias of stem-metamatter began when entanglement molecules first joined with other matter structures to form the first viable hosts for life. Ever since them eco-systems in this universe and their evolved living hosts has essentially tuned metamatter by storing information into this bootstrapping cloud-storage repository of nature. This began the propensity at first of eco-systems to become obtuse attractors of metamatter that has been imprinted by these first generations of QEF’s entangled to hosts which evolved and still exist within its unique habitat for life. This describes the beginning of the process which tunes the individual FT. With time this process becomes or evolves to be progressively more finely tuned to individual LINE’s or QEF’s. Theoretically eventually this bias may evolve or may be manipulated to favor even specific familial DNA traits as metamatter becomes more finely imprinted. This begs the question; Can other eco-systems be targeted for specific individual instantiation by synthetically detuning or retuning ones imprinted metamatter to another ecosystems unique evolutionary signature genetic or otherwise?
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby EasternWind on August 17th, 2016, 1:25 pm 

I think if we consider life as a one off occurrence, then nothing makes any sense. We won't be able to define anything. "Meaning" would have no meaning.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby Eclogite on August 17th, 2016, 2:47 pm 

EasternWind » Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:25 pm wrote:I think if we consider life as a one off occurrence, then nothing makes any sense. We won't be able to define anything. "Meaning" would have no meaning.
While I am not sure that I agree with you, you have made your point clearly and succinctly. That is a delightful contrast with the author of the wild speculation that forms the backbone of the thread. I thank you sincerely for that.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on August 18th, 2016, 11:57 am 

In this endeavor we call science you will find, I think, there is no stranger beast then Nature herself. Contrary to the suggestion of the Anthropic Principle, this universe is not as astronomers observe it simply because astronomers exist, or because they are here to measure it. Rather, astronomers can and will exist anywhere in nature where circumstances and conditions are right for life and for astronomers. Earth’s solar system is just one such place. The distinction between these two points is not at all trivial. In fact it is profound. Because the latter point supports one particular conclusion as posed by the LINE hypotheses that is the mobility of individuality. It is only local circumstances which determine a habitats viability for individual life. By this definition any ‘Here’ in this universe could host individual life.


Given all of these alternative locations for being, a better question for the individual may be; Then why here? Here being this star this planet this body, this cell. If neither place nor form persists the individual, then what does? If you are having difficulty fathoming this notion keep in mind that as you read these words you are yourself on a planet orbiting a star which together are both traveling through space-time at approx. 225 km/sec. So if you think it is some particular space-time location that has defined your presence, your being then the earth’s and your location is changing every second. If it is the atoms and molecules on and in the earth that you believe tether you to your form on this spherical rocket-ship through the cosmos, think again, the atoms and molecules of the earth and your body owe no allegiance to me or thee.


If location, which includes the space within all of the atoms of the Sun, the Earth, and your body and their relative location in space-time, is purely circumstantial then the inescapable conclusion favors that the mechanism which places any living individual where they are, when they are, must operate throughout existence. You live here because you are entangled here. Entangled to a temporary corporeal physical host which happened to emerge from local material in an ever changing location in nature that is no more special than anywhere else. Make no mistake this is not a conclusion which in any way diminishes how wondrous and rare the processes by which living hosts have emerged on this planet. Rather, it is an acknowledgement that similarly wondrous processes can occur throughout this or in other universe where circumstances happen to be right and there you may be as alive as you are here at this moment only necessarily, superficially, differently.


Further, these superficial differences won’t matter as they don’t now matter. Any astronomer any living being inhabits nature by the laws of instantiation. You will be, you can live, anywhere circumstances are right. Regardless of how one makes the journey, whether one manages to take ones current entangled form along on board a spacecraft or if by reinstantiation by natural entanglement. The mobility of individuality in this universe is replete with opportunities for life and experience. Placing restrictions on what’s ‘right’ for life as we currently do today in biology and life sciences is missing the natural implementation of life and individuality. Genetics describes living hosts Earth-style. The LINE hypotheses describes natural entanglement as the host form agnostic mobility of individuality, of you, throughout nature.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby EasternWind on August 18th, 2016, 2:25 pm 

tonylang, what makes you think you are "entangled?" Why do you think circumstances brought you here? Why is it not possible that you brought yourself here? Why is it not possible that you are attached to your form because you want to be attached to your form? You seem to think that you have no hand in the creation or processes of this universe. What makes you think that? have you not ever modified this universe, even if by a tiny, tiny amount? Have you never taken a piss? Did that not alter the course of the universe a little? Why is it that you think you are not cause but always an effect?
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on August 23rd, 2016, 8:12 pm 

The realization of the science which describes the mobility of individuality in this universe, of the kind suggested by the LINE hypothesis, adds yet another layer of ethical concern to the already ethically laden endeavors of modern day genetics. That is, the manipulation of existing, and the proposed resurrection of bygone species. Naturally evolved hosts, even those that were bread by us, are generally of sound evolutionary foundation. Humans, dogs, cats, pigeons, bacteria are made viable by natural selection even when deliberately bread by humankind. However, with the advent of genuine genetic manipulation of the sort made possible by the discovery of the Crisper CAS9 gene comes a new level of divergence or even a complete disassociation from the process of natural evolutionary selection.

Further, in the presence of complete ignorance regarding the implementation by which nature distributes individuality in living beings throughout this universe these concerns today give rise only to relatively moderate levels of controversy and discussion. We consider the question of should we manipulate and create new species from a naively disassociated perspective which just barely rises to the level of personal concern. We may consider our distress in eating a genetically modified cow or chicken or feel some displeasure in seeing an unfamiliar host resulting from the more esoteric or misguided attempts at genetic manipulation or perhaps we worry about creating a species that could threaten our current life in some manner. This is largely because we do not see how we may one day be the direct recipient of a synthetically manipulated host.

Most of humankind are prone to accept established ideas which we were thought or exposed to early in ones current instantiation. Most are ideas which were last exposed to the bright light of cognizant consideration many hundreds or even thousands of years ago. Careful rules of non-questioning tradition and the hierarchical consideration of new ideas have been erected to protect the status quo from the corrosive influence caused by the acquisition of factual scientific information over time. Ironically even specific scientific ideas regarding the possible nature of individuality is guilty of this protectionism. Or perhaps its not at all deliberate but a natural evolutionary implementation meant to protect the self-aware mind, We may be largely ignorant by evolutionary design. A form of mental protection akin to the shell of an egg for the conscious intelligent self-aware mind. Perhaps some things are best left unknown.

Nonetheless, the time to break through the shell of ignorance is upon us. Shortly it will become increasingly difficult to ignore the mechanism by which individuality is distributed throughout nature. With the discovery of thousands of planets all evolved similarly to earth but with different specific circumstances questions will arise in the scientifically alert nimble minds that are proliferating in today’s dynamic information culture. Questions like; What is the mechanism that places me here to experience life from this body which is a part of this particular planet as opposed to some other? Why are you in that body and not me and on this planet or on some other planet? These questions can be posed from the perspective of each of trillions of living beings alive on or off the Earth at any given moment in time. In dealing with these questions one is almost certainly either in scientific denial or you cling to some religious narrative. You see science doesn’t try to explain these questions because for most of its history there was insufficient information to address them. This is no longer quite the case. We know of the mechanisms and are beginning to develop the principles for understanding how nature universally mediates the mobility of individuality.

Realize that the collection of species that exist on earth or on any viable planet at any time is the repository of living hosts from which nature will probabilistically naturally entangle a viable form to host ones next instantiation. This combined with the realization that there is a universal phenomenon mediated by the quantifying quantum measure described by ones unique QEF and fidelity of teleportation is what will define your existence in nature for perpetuity. As we are discovering more often than not, just about anything in nature is susceptible to some level of manipulation and with such influence is born control.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby EasternWind on September 2nd, 2016, 2:47 pm 

Is "nature" an intelligent being - kind of like God? Or is it a series of utterly random - and therefore meaningless - events?
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby hyksos on September 4th, 2016, 4:32 pm 

What is the mechanism that places me here to experience life from this body which is a part of this particular planet as opposed to some other? Why are you in that body and not me and on this planet or on some other planet? These questions can be posed from the perspective of each of trillions of living beings alive on or off the Earth at any given moment in time. In dealing with these questions one is almost certainly either in scientific denial or you cling to some religious narrative.

Our modern computer algorithms can predict mortality with 93% accuracy. Our computers can tell if you if you are going to die in the next six months, and more accurately than any psychic soothsayer in history.

We have a certain political party that understands this and is comfortable with doctors when they make a decision to pull the plug (so to speak). Simultaneously, some members of another political party are referring to such meetings amongst doctors and specialists, as "Death Panels." . Most of the population is still clinging to medieval ideas about death and when and why it happens to people.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on October 17th, 2016, 10:27 am 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016 ... ys-so-sci/


By the 11th day of gestation of a human embryo, for example, being no bigger than the head of a pin yet it contains many hundred cells every one of them a living individual in nature. Among these cells, early in the formation of a new life, are the LINE hypothesized Entanglement Cells (EC), some of which are likely visible in this photograph. Entanglement cells are very special cells which together heterodyne their own unique individual entangled states to manifest a new state established at a unique QEF, your QEF. This instantiation manifests a new life, a new emerged LifeID, your position-of-view (POV), not unlike their own but at a different unique quantifiable value of the entangled degrees-of-freedom (QEF’s) of the immutable entanglement spectrum. This is approximately the stage in gestation of a viable host where instantiation occurs, the point at which you the individual, become tethered to this particular growing host form and not to some other.


Why you? In this there can be no; Why, only; How. Via a combination of natural circumstances, some predicted by the LINE hypothesis, this particular host has heterodyned at your QEF. This occurs whether the form be human, or any other viable living form that happens to exist in any temporary, no doubt extinction laden eco-system. The Earth is but one such habitat. This is but one instance of countless such processes of instantiation by natural entanglement that occur second by second throughout existence. By this process the mobility of individuality is made possible in a vast Higgs universe, together with the non-locality of metamatter and the non-relativistic reach of the entanglement spectrum. These features make individuality and life possible on Erath and anywhere, wherever viable forms happen to emerge, in that place a new instance of life is established whether single or multi-cellular. Empirically proving or disproving the existence and theorized function of the EC and identifying the ubiquitous entanglement molecule which makes this all possible will be greatly facilitated by using subjects that are at this early pivotal stage of development.


This initial two week stage in human gestation, for example, marks the point where the embryo may form one or more hosts (i.e. twins etc.). Also at this stage the characteristic central structure of the host form begins to emerge. It is very likely that the EC are present but have not yet heterodyned at this juncture. At this stage the embryo remains a collection of distinct individual cells each with a specific, or soon to be determined mission. Once the EC combine their individual entangled states to establish the one or more new emerged entangled states and the POV’s define therein, an equal number of new instances of individuality come into existence perhaps for the first time, or perhaps not for the first time. The one certainty in this process is that this particular host has never before existed and never will again.


Further, we may inquire; at what stage in its evolution does an emerged species gain its EC and go from being a colony of individual cells , to become an emerged individual hosting a position-of-view with a unique emerged QEF? To understand this It would help to seek living forms representative of each evolutionary stage of development. Species that straddle the evolutionary line between a colony of living individual cells and an emerged living being with a POV distinct from its other non-EC’s. Such species no doubt exist but are not easily categorized. For some reason evolution seems to favor full emergence once a colony develops the EC, like a switch being flipped. This is not to suggest that such recently emerged species would immediately possess highly integrated systems like a central nervous system which links its desperate regions of specialization. Such complex features would take time to evolve but the QE connection to metamatter had by all living forms requires no such embellishments.


Also, how might a species respond evolutionarily to developing a newly established POV as compared to being a colony of living individuals? This would be a truly fascinating study to undertake. The LINE hypothesis suggests that imprinted metamatter influences evolution throughout this universe in ways that cannot be underestimated and may very well play a crucial role in disseminating this amazing capability to eco-systems separated by distances that are otherwise physically unbridgeable. Thus, like all other features of the cell, the capability to combine the natural entangled state first evolves in cells which then further specialize. Thereby passing on their newly acquired talents to offspring. Together these new EC perform the initial combination of their individual QE connection to establish the new emerged individuals position-of-view thereby marking the emergence of a new host form for emerged individual life, a new species.


From an evolutionary standpoint, one may be tempted to expect a dramatic transformation to accompany the transition from the collection to the emerged individual, but this is unlikely to be the case. More probable is a slow evolution out of the hitherto normal behavior of that particular colony as new possibilities slowly take hold of its evolutionary trajectory. Thus the cloud-storage repository of newly entangled metamatter further shapes the destiny of a new species. The science which describes POV evolution will, like all aspects of living biology, be deep and complex in its own right. The evolution of a species has many influences and likely goes stepwise with the evolution of its POV as both number and complexity of EC may evolve over time.


So if you, whatever your species, are impressed and proud of the evolved capabilities of your living form, it is well and good that you should be, but also realize that none of those known features can be considered to be more impressive than the feature of natural entanglement heterodyning evolved in the EC. This remarkable feature permits nothing less than the establishment of complex emerged beings, like you, in this universe. If not for this amazing feature of the cell only individual cells and colonies thereof would populate the Earth. This is not to suggest what forms such colonies might take, but the distinction between a colony of individual cells and an emerged being such as a human or a millipede or a finch is significant and important. Today science defines no clear basis for such a distinction, the LINE hypothesis does.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby EasternWind on October 17th, 2016, 11:50 am 

tonylang » October 17th, 2016, 10:27 am wrote:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016 ... ys-so-sci/

"...you the individual, become tethered to..."


What or who is "you the individual" here?

I get that there are a large numbers processes and steps to "tether the individual" to the cells. But what is "the individual"? Something completely distinct from this universe?
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on October 18th, 2016, 2:15 pm 

"What or who is "you the individual" here? "

Who?: You are one instance of individuality.
What is that?: A Position-Of-View (POV)
How?: Via Natural Entanglement between your EC with metamatter.


To itemize the concepts being proposed;

1- In nature, whatever the design of ones' current host, you are not present solely as a result of it or its biology, technology or its chemistry.

2- Ones’ being ones’ individuality is in fact a position-of-view (POV) which is independent of ones’ form.

3- A POV is a naturally occurring solution of state established between this space-time and Hilbert-space, a space from which this universe emerges.

4- The hypothesized entanglement molecules (EM) exist entirely within this universes’ space-time while metamatter exists entirely within Hilbert-space.

5- The POV is the result of the naturally occurring sharing of state called natural quantum entanglement (QE) which temporarily exists between these two entities.

6- At some point in earth’s history these naturally occurring entanglement molecules joined with other structures to form the proto-cell, the progenitor to the modern cell.

7- This temporary QE connection between these two very different entities is established at some unique property or aspect of the entanglement spectrum perhaps frequency (QEF) at some value or finite band that is unique to each individual.

8- While this QE connection persists, the individual cell lives.

9- Every living cell maintains its own natural entanglement connection to Hilbert-space via its EM contained within the cell.

10- In multi-cellular hosts, like beavers and human beings, the emerged individuals’ QE connection is maintained by specialized cells called entanglement cells which combine their individual unique QEF to establish a new entanglement with metamatter in Hilbert-space unique to the emerged individual, you.

11- While ones’ heterodyned QE connection persists, you live.

12- The POV brings no experience or memories, but only that which may have an experience. Ones’ target for experience if you will.

13- The POV mathematically speaking is effectively a unique solution of state for the quantum state functions (Hamiltonians) of the surrounding environment.

14- Ones’ POV solution effectively collapses the surrounding environments quantum state to render the reality that the individual may experience with whatever senses are afforded to them by their current physical form. Whether one instantiates in the form of a single cell or a millipede, a sperm-whale or a human being.

15- Every individual life in this universe instantiates and reinstantiates by this mechanism.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on December 28th, 2016, 9:43 am 

The ability to realize beyond ones species is a hard earned capability. Would an ant, an earth species naturally equal to any other, consider importance, if it could, beyond the concerns of the nest? Could a bee realize concerns beyond the interests of the hive and if they could what might they ponder? In what do we, as equal tenants of life, find importance beyond our own immediate concerns, being perhaps the only species in the history of earth-life with the capability to entertain such considerations? What aspect of nature might all life share commonly with immediate local urgency beyond all of the interests of their respective cultures regardless of their location in space-time? Human religion has long invented such a universally shared entity in the form of various Gods. A god by its very description is considered to be a common cause a shared universal concern of all life and of every individual. That which transcends place as well as time. However, might there be a somewhat less mystical more empirical natural implementation which fits this description of common cause for life and individuality regardless of which star or planet or perhaps universe one may live?


Of local interest for individuals on earth may be concern for the state of earths ecology as a viable habitat to sustain ones current host form, ones species. Also the stability and trajectory of the sun and indeed all matters relevant to our common star. Also our common planets’ fate would certainly top such a thoughtful list. Excluded may be internal strife and politics and such for such cultural local distractions are not often shared by other forms, at least prior to humankind. Testament to this is the fact that when any human, for example, is confronted with the inconvenience of say a thriving bee hive or ants nest or termite mound in ones vicinity no consideration is ever given to which individuals therein are deserving of benevolent consideration or are right minded. Nor is any consideration given by us to which termites can be considered above the fray, which individuals are good or bad hearted among its kind. No, we simply torch the entire culture. This is perhaps as it will be in all such encounters.


Nonetheless, The LINE hypothesis suggests that there may yet exist universally immutable natural implementations, not unlike a common atmosphere or shared star or habitat. Natural implementation seen or unseen which may be of common importance to all living individuals regardless of form or location in this universe or indeed in existence. Such aspects of nature would be of common importance to individuality everywhere? For example, what might earth species hold in common regard with say indigenous mars-life if it existed? Perhaps matters concerning the condition and fate of the Sun since the survival of both depend on the state of our common star. Not on each list may be concerns for the state of the others eco-system since we are not affected by conditions on the surface of mars or Venus or any other planet. Also present on such a list may be the goings on in the asteroid belt and ort cloud as both could affect all life within their reach. Further, if we consider this same conundrum from the perspective of species separated by the vastness of interstellar space sharing no classically described resources or structures in common dependence what else then might there be to include on such a list? Perhaps the ultimate fate of the universe itself is about all that meets with our traditional misconceptions about life and individuality.


This suggests that the internal goings on of any species is irrelevant to nature writ large. So then might there be something more? Could there exist in nature considerations of greater and common relevance and dependence? Is there a common list of concerns and implementations that can be made by members of any species no matter where they may be located in this or perhaps any universe no matter their form or local culture or circumstances ? A list of actual, no doubt natural, structures and considerations whatever their description whose existence or state will ultimately matter simultaneously indelibly to all life to every living being. What ideas or entities or phenomena might such a perennial list detail?


The entanglement spectrum and the imprinting of cellular state information upon metamatter described by the LINE hypothesis during the instantiation period, the lifetime of any individual QEF is such a common cause. This information transfer may be compared to the formatting of a computer hard-drive by its electronic circuitry. In this analogy metamatter is akin to the unformatted ferrite coating of the HD disc surface. During the course of every lifetime the cell, natures entanglement circuit, writes or imprints information via its entanglement molecules to entangled metamatter. This information transferred to the universal repository of metamatter is essentially evolutionary formatting via natural entanglement and occurs during the course of each lifetime by every living hosts specific DNA and entangled degrees of freedom (QEF). As the ferrite particles of a HD are altered or formatted by the computers programmed circuitry via electromagnetism so too is matamatter by the host and its LifeID via the entanglement spectrum. As any individual POV establishes yet another place and time in any universe this conservation of information transfer or imprinting upon meta matter occurs and in so doing this universal cloud storage repository of state information stored in metamatter becomes the major driver behind evolution and the emergence of initial or existing host forms throughout nature. Neither distance nor time nor the persistence of any particular matter structure be it species, planet, star, galaxy or perhaps even universe is essential for the continuation or proliferation of this mechanism because the viability of such forms to host life are all that is required. These matter based components are one means by which a POV may be hosted but are not necessary for the instantiation of the individual thus are properly transient and temporary. The instantiation of life by natural entanglement occurs with equal persistence regardless of the location or proliferation of living hosts in the immensity of the cosmos. The only mechanism which possesses the natural description to implement such an amazing feat is a natural immutable universal quantum entanglement spectrum.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on March 25th, 2017, 6:04 pm 

Why should any living being love or care for its offspring, or about its family, about ones species, for ones village and country, or about your eco-system and planet, or even your local Star? How does any individual assign concern to these locally interdependent physical forms? Any assignment of concern in this regard depends on ones species and culture. The sea tortoise lays her eggs in a carefully excavated hole on a particular beach then gently covers them over with sand then leaves them forever to the not often tender graces of circumstance. The bald eagle pairs with a mate for a time to prepare a nest for her eggs and together they care and rare their young to a viable state of readiness for its new life. Human beings have taken the raring of familial members to an extreme mostly as a cultural demand. With adequate enlightenment we begin to extend our concern to other members of our and other defined species and the communities they form and the environment which makes it all possible? All this occurs in the absence of any certainty about the true nature of one’s living circumstances. How are we here? Where were we before? What or where comes next. For some, abject denial offers occasional respite from the unknown, however, eventually no human escapes the wonderment endemic to the conundrum of life.


The layers of concern we manifest for the various structures that form our existence and upon which we depend for survival and well being at this emergent macroscopic level can be described as a sphere or bubble of concern. This bubble describes all of the cultural and instinctual notions which form an individual’s concerns for its surroundings. For humankind this bubble may be manifested by particularly rich narratives based on instinct, imagination, fear, ambition, perceptions, and as of relatively recently on empirical data. Each host form or species and the individuals instantiated therein may be circumstantially free to define its own unique bubble of concerns which describe the day to day trajectory of the individual’s current life. The stresses intrinsic to being alive for any living being able to fathom such notions are significant and unavoidable. The bubble of concern comes from an evolved need to survive not just physically but also cognitively. Ones bubble of concern contributes to the definition of one’s living reality.

The evolution of experience which defines the sphere of concern in living hosts often fosters a progressive increase of sensitivity to the environment. Being overly sensitive or overly sensory in an entropic universe may not be the best condition for a living being. Humans have five major senses but this by no means defines a limit for viable hosts. We need not think about all which we cannot sense just as do other creatures that share this ecosystem with us. What of the world might a being with more than five senses glean? Are there host forms possessing sensory implementations that permit a being to sense the state or condition of its ecosystem perhaps as a kind of emotion? Or sense the presence of a POV, the presence of life itself? It is difficult to imagine what experiences there can be which you can't, however, the fundamental natural implementation of life in this universe, natural entanglement, which brings no experience of its own, does indeed accommodate an untold diversity of living forms and their emergent skills and accompanying spheres of concern limited only by the metaphorical imagination of nature herself.

However, Just beyond the proverbial skin of this sphere are the natural laws of cause and effect that determine when where and how any living being is located in space-time, ones position-of-view (POV). A POV, instantiated by natural entanglement, is the ridged framework which defines and drives the presence of individuality throughout this universe. With distance being no barrier to this teleportation channel, as living hosts emerge and evolve out of the isolation of initial living forms, biological or otherwise, and as living hosts evolve to permit survival of the entangled state and experience, these also define ones unique sphere of concern centered upon ones the POV, upon you. The POV is the naturally teleportable definition, the instantiation, the kernel, of one’s individuality in this universe.

This behavior of concern or caring, whether instinctual or cognitive, although mostly culturally defined at the emerged host level, fundamentally derives from the basic natural cause and effect implementation of life itself, an implementation about which most life on earth today is utterly unaware including humankind. The imprinting of metamatter caused by the instantiation by natural entanglement that defines you, the individual, your position-of-view, is the source of this perceived concern. For offspring of basic hosts, like a single cell that divides to create new cells, it is only the cause manifested from the imprinting or tuning of metamatter by similar genetic progeny that renders apparent attachment to offspring. For a cell or microbe it is nothing more than the evolved tendency of like to seek like.

Metamatter imprinted by a newly available host’s progeny enters more easily into an entangled state with that new host, thereby increasing the value or scalar magnitude of the individuals’ (QEF) fidelity of teleportation (FT) and thereby ones reinstantiation prospects with similar species. Species evolution simply selects for this similarity by genetic variation as it does for many other properties. It gives the species an evolutionary benefit via access to non-local cellular state information stored in more similarly imprinted metamatter. The drive to proliferate ones’ own similarly imprinted matamatter is advanced by spreading ones current genetics (DNA), however, genetics are local to ones current position in space-time. Whereas the coherent state information stored in metamatter during the course of each lifetime, made accessible to living hosts throughout nature via ones uniquely defined natural teleportation channel, is one major driver of evolution throughout the cosmos even when the viability of local circumstances catastrophically cease to exist. Today most understand the drive to procreate only as the individual’s dedication to host offspring or to species. Seen from humankind’s evolved cognitive vantage point we narrate this effect as love and caring described by a lexicon of emotional terms, from these perceptions emerge community, religion, politics and culture.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby Eclogite on April 7th, 2017, 5:15 pm 

Is there any possibility that you came here to discuss rather than preach?
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on June 12th, 2017, 7:09 pm 

In what order does the instantiation of life by natural entanglement select, and assign, any individual QEF to ones next host form, among the great diversity of genetic lineages on Earth, and perhaps elsewhere in this universe? As we live, we fixate on our current host species and its genetically related ancestry, and its future prospects, not realizing that one’s current defined species may be only one of many viable forms that have hosted your POV in past instantiations. In the short term, this diversity of lineages that has played host to you, to your position-of-view, may very well include a few different species and near-species. However, in the longer term history of earth-life, for any individual, ones host history may include a great many, often very different host forms. Further, Parents and ancestors are current and bygone individuals (QEF’s) that were also hosted by Earths tree of life.

The degrees-of-freedom (DOF), of the QE spectrum, and their implementation in the LINE process, may reveal underlying complexities which defines categories of QEF types which determines which host forms are able to instantiate certain QEF types. Ergo, not all QEF can immediately be hosted by all forms. A single cell may not be capable of hosting your QEF. Metaphorically speaking, as your FM radio cannot tune a TV signal. Not because your QEF is in any way dedicated specifically to the human form, but due to the underlying defining structure of the QE spectrum, and the underlying metaverse (Hilbert-space), and the topographies of their interface with this universe. Such a determination will require invasive research to discover the truth of it. Because this is a nuanced, and not at all as simple a thing as it may at first seem. Further, the LINE hypothesis suggests that QEF are described by the DOF’s of the QE spectrum, which are governed by nuances of the underlying metaverse. Consequentially, only a certain range of the entanglement spectrum may be exposed to any particular universe. Ergo, the QE spectrum may be essentially pre-filtered by overriding conditions, and circumstances, to expose this universe to only a certain band of QEF. That is, of potential individuals, which is then further filtered, or tuned, by more local circumstances described by ones fidelity of teleportation (FT), which instantiate these available QEF to compatible viable hosts. All of this contributes to the natural description of how you came to be what you are, where you are, and what comes next.


Like you, each ancestor, via their instantiated hosts, have participated in the local dissemination of genetic information through various processes of procreation. More significantly, however, also by storing its cellular state to entangled metamatter over the course of each lifetime. Ones ancestors are bygone lives of individual QEF’s that, like you, were temporarily instantiated to hosts that contributed genetically to yours, in any given instance of life. However, more influentially, also by contributing to the universal repository of evolutionary information. This tuning influences ones FT value, and future prospects for reinstantiation. Each of those individual QEF’s are also on their own trajectory through the universal network of life. Via this mutual, cellular-QEF tuning of universal evolutionary information, individuals of ancestral QEF’s, could cross paths with your trajectory again. Realizing and comparing the DNA mediated tree of host forms on Earth, with the natural teleportation network that governs the assignment of individuality to those forms, will no doubt be a new and unfamiliar cognitive hurdle for humankind. If you feel evolution has been rough going, then buckle-up.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby tonylang on August 11th, 2017, 12:20 pm 

Ones’ gene pool defines a region on the Darwinian tree of earth-life. The LINE hypothesis suggests that this region encompasses all of those host forms which have contributed genetically to your current form, and also to the metamatter imprinted by those forms during each instantiation. During each lifetime imprinted metamatter defines, or tunes, the individuals' fidelity of teleportation (FT). Ones’ gene pool encompasses all hosts possessing similarly converging genetic underpinnings to your current host form, because you did not instantiate your current form entirely by random accident. Each individual QEF, alive in its current host, has earned its right to occupy that host.

A species may have wide and relatively secure genetic foundations and circumstances in its current ecosystem, or not. For example, the individuals in a newly founded Mars colony will clearly have no genetic roots in that habitat such as it is. Even if we terraform Mars with the nonbiological conditions need to sustain earth-life, air, water, temperature, pressure etc., the probability of a colonists' position-of-view (POV) re-instantiating, being naturally born into this Mars ecosystem will be very low. However, if we managed to seed the newly established Mars ecosystem with earth-life, whether human or not, then this will slowly but progressively increase the chances, over time, of hosting similarly tuned individual LIFEID's to local hosts.

The FT of any host for life within one's gene pool is not reduced by travel, or relocation in space-time, because, the mechanism of instantiation, natural entanglement, is distance agnostic. Of course species as a group are defined by their population, and as reinstantiation is a statistical mechanism, not unlike a lottery, likewise each host which comes into existence, whether on earth or on Mars, like a lottery ticket, has some chance, in this case defined by its calculated FT, to host a particular LIFEID, even if that LIFEID was last instantiated, living, at a location whether inches, miles, millions of miles, billions of light years, or even universes away.

Ergo, if a new Mars colonist died on Mars, or even in the space between these, or indeed any, two habitats for life, that individuals FT remains unaffected by its location. That individuals LIFEID remains highly likely to re-instantiate, establish a new POV, on Earth simply because that is where the most opportunities for similar genetic natural entanglement for any indigenous earth-being currently exists in this universe. Ergo, genetic home, while it remains viable, always calls to the individual.
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Re: Is individual life in this universe a one-off occurrence

Postby Eclogite on August 11th, 2017, 5:00 pm 

@tonylang

I am locking the thread. You've been given sufficient rope and you have hung yourself. Your hypothesis is nonsense; your walls of word salad do not conceal the lack of content, but highlight it; you have generally avoided discussion, preferring to lecture. None of these behaviours are welcome on this forum. Do not re-introduce the topic. If you object to this action then report this post.
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