'Post-Truth Politics' - Collapse in Information Integrity

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Re: 'Post-Truth Politics' - Collapse in Information Integrit

Postby Mossling on March 21st, 2017, 1:38 am 

Unravelling much?:



The latest sophistry:

"Reading a [fake] news story [in order to support POTUS's fake claims] is not vouching for the story, it is just reading it."

Lol, next it will be "the tweets he sends are not words, they are arrangements of pixels on a screen, dummy!"

The mummy's bandages are coming off... gripping stuff.
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Re: 'Post-Truth Politics' - Collapse in Information Integrit

Postby Paul Anthony on March 21st, 2017, 6:11 pm 

Getting back to the original topic...

Derek Paulson at Prepared Patriot had a bit of incite:

"The best tool for distinguishing fact from fiction in current events is repose. You would do better to read a newspaper story the next day in The New York Times than a wire story that was written in 10 minutes and slapped up on a thousand Web sites. But you will usually do much better to read a lengthy account in the New Yorker weeks later, or even months or years later, than any account written in the thicket of events.

Going back to the archives and reading day-after coverage of major events -- something like the Challenger disaster, or the Iran Air 655 tragedy, or the months leading up to the Iraq war -- can be very instructive. It usually takes months, at least, for the real story to emerge.

You cannot reliably expect to learn what matters in real time. You often need to be patient for the truth to come out."


Perhaps the spate of fake news is caused by our need for instant gratification, our demand to know RIGHT NOW, that has lead to sloppy journalism being rushed to get the scoop on the competition.
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Re: 'Post-Truth Politics' - Collapse in Information Integrit

Postby Mossling on March 23rd, 2017, 12:58 am 

Paul Anthony » March 22nd, 2017, 7:11 am wrote:Perhaps the spate of fake news is caused by our need for instant gratification, our demand to know RIGHT NOW, that has lead to sloppy journalism being rushed to get the scoop on the competition.

Competition has always created cheaters, I don't think that this is a new idea.

Unfortunately the alleged insight (not incite) that "The best tool for distinguishing fact from fiction in current events is repose" is not apparently a very practical idea when one's president may be being blackmailed by a foreign enemy state, or when corrupt treasonous politicians in the highest office are attempting to cover their tracks. I think that what is needed when faced with such potentials is fast and rigorous investigation - from state authorities as well as journalists.

It seems that the fake news phenomenon is an issue that more concerns journalistic ethics - where empirical rigour is dropped in favour of political bias.
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