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Postby mongo1551 on November 10th, 2008, 8:59 pm 

My favorites are Dark City and eXinstenz. As to the aside from the professor that there are no movies that directly relate to philosophic themes--this misses the point that culture and popular culture are constantly cross-referencing one other in ways that are more interesting than setting out to make a "philosophic" movie (what ever that might be).
eXistenz foreshadows a serious problem in the near (30-40 years?) future when we figure out how to wire virtual reality games directly into the nervous system. The idea that, in this context, hacking could induce permanent psychosis is a serious consideration. It also suggests a buddhist theme of questioning our delineation between and inner and outer world--a habit Einstein referred to as "an optical delusion of consciousness."
Dark City is a brilliant poem on the theme of existence becoming lost in some ground-hog day genetic loop that simply repeats invariant patterns endlessly--an echo of Nietzsche's eternal recurrence.
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Postby theguzzle on December 5th, 2008, 12:39 pm 

Seven, Trainspotting, Vanilla Sky, Requiem For a Dream, Wall-E, Pulp Fiction, 2001: A Space Odyssey? Anything really....
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Postby wuliheron on December 5th, 2008, 5:24 pm 

"The Lathe of Heaven" (1970s PBS version, not the remake)

"Star Wars" (widely considered the most Taoistic movie of all time)

"Lady in the Sand" (Japanese existentialism, black and white with subtitles)

"Being There" (Peter Sellers shows Forest Gump his true potential)
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Postby Tor_Hershman on December 11th, 2008, 5:44 pm 

LouSalome wrote:The Seventh Seal

Monty Python and the Holy Grail



Also two of moi's most enjoyed films.

I do dislike the "Happy Ending" Bergman gave TSS;
it should've simply faded to black with Jon's chick, I (obviously) forget the name, on her knees before Death.

Stay on groovin' safari,
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Postby Tor_Hershman on December 11th, 2008, 5:53 pm 

Usyless, should dig moi's 1 & 2 pics.....
Charles Chaplin’s “City Lights,
(Especially the unused scene where the Tramp’s interaction with the stick in the grate exemplifies the pointlessness of existence by/with the ‘good citizens’ interest),
“Limelight,”
and Mel Brooks’ “The Thirteen Chairs.”

Oh yeah, I never heard of this one till last month – Akira Kurosawa’s “Ikiru.”
The wake scene drags but the first 60% and last 10% of the flick MORE than remedy that.
What is the motive force? Why, as with most “Life affirming” actions, it’s death that is the REAL hero.

Stay on groovin' safari,
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Re: Must See Movies - Philosophy Favorites - List yours!

Postby andrea frey on August 21st, 2010, 7:23 pm 

in to the wild
before sunrise
tha shawshank redemption
eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
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Postby CanadysPeak on August 21st, 2010, 7:37 pm 

Gigot. A compelling argument for the existence of God.
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Postby neuro on August 22nd, 2010, 5:29 am 

does anybody of you think they can fetch that old movie "Baghdad Café"?
that's no explicit philosophy, rather an emotional perspective on life, which however makes it much easier and better to live.
Just a suggestion...
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Postby andrea frey on August 22nd, 2010, 5:35 pm 

i watched many movies but i had two recently movies that still stuck .
the man from earth- i think its telling that everything is possible even if it doesnt make any sense but who knows who can guarantee that those all wrong ? anyone could believe something or not it's up to their perpectives abt the truth it self
the life of david gale -one thing that some people know abt happiness is when they attained all their want. but the fact is When you were living in it then you were keep going it woudnt be fun anymore , time when you were dreaming abt what you want is the time when you feel much more happier.. and when you struggling for it , when you sacrificed for it , those are the things that count.
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Postby Lizard on April 10th, 2011, 11:40 pm 

Where the wild things are.
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Postby Whut on June 5th, 2011, 12:00 am 

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Postby AmbivalentOne on July 19th, 2011, 6:08 am 

V for Vendetta
Inception
Memento
A Serious Man
Hurly Burly
Fight Club
American Psycho
Matrix
Eternal Sunshine
I heart Huckabees
Being John Malkovich
American Beauty
Shutter Island
The Assassination of Richard Nixon
My Dinner With Andre (a bit boring, but a noble effort)
Waking Life (again a bit boring, but a noble effort)
A Perverts Guide to Cinema
Zizek!
Eyes Wide Shut
The Lawnmower Man
One Hour Photo
Star Wars
Dead Poets Society
The Station Agent
Death of a Salesman (with Dustin Hoffman)
Falling Down
Ghost World
Pans Labyrinth
David Lynch, Jim Jarmusch, Gus Van Sant (at least 3 good movies each)
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Postby PhilosophicalZombie on July 30th, 2011, 3:26 pm 

My fave movies with philosophical themes:

Blade Runner, Artificial Intelligence (except for the last 15 minutes) (AI, metaphysics)
Planet of the Apes, District 9 (ethics, animal rights, philosophy of race)
Adaptation (metaphysics, postmodernism)
Crimes and Misdemeanors (ethics, religion)
12 Angry Men (philosophy of law, ethics, epistemology)
Groundhog Day (meaning of life, eternal recurrence)
Fitzcarraldo (existentialism)
Waking Life (because Robert Solomon and David Sosa are in it)
Runaway Train (existentialism, Nietzsche quotes)

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Postby rrushius on September 15th, 2011, 9:48 pm 

Try watching some Asian (Korean and Japanese) movies. My preferred ones in order of importance:

1) Oldboy (by Korean director: Park Chan-Wook)

2) 3-Iron (or: Bin-jip by Korean director Kim Ki-duk)

3) Rashomon (by Japanese director Akira Kurosawa, based on two short stories entitled, In a Grove, and Rashomon, by Ryūnosuke Akutagawa) If anyone wants to read the stories, you can find Rashomon here: http://sites.google.com/site/renemalenfant/rashomon and I have added In a Grove as a pdf attachment

Another great movie by Hong Kong director Wong Kar-wai is 2046

Other movies and directors

1) I Stand Alone (or Seul Contre Tous, by Argentine director Gaspar Noe) Check out also its sequel Irreversible, though I like the first one better.

2) Underground (by Serbian director Emir Kusturica)

3) Black Swan (by director Darren Aronofsky)

4) Pi (also by Darren Aronofsky) His Requiem for a Dream is not bad either.

5) Dead Man (by director Jim Jarmusch)

6) Jacob's Ladder (by director Adrian Lyne)
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Postby rrushius on September 15th, 2011, 10:03 pm 

And as for The Matrix which seems to spawn so many discussion, true, it deals with a lot of philosophical subjects, however, its references are so biblical and rubbish that it is just impossible not to notice (and shirk). Plus, I think the directors (Larry and Andy Wachowski) sort of got lost in their own labyrinths and really did not know how to end what they started--in short they simply made a 180 degree turn and went back to old and tired solutions to old and worn out ethical debates.
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Postby Greek_Geek on September 16th, 2011, 12:09 am 

I'd have to think of my favorite, but the one I didn't like was "Mindwalk". It was too pretentious and many of the debates were too shallow or oversimplified. I remember one scene when the woman was commenting on political philosophy and she said (paraphrasing) that humanity needed a fundamental shift in mentality, like a paradigm shift in how we think. Oh, really? No duh! That is such a frivolous statement. Well of course humanity needs to change the way we think, it's called progress, it's called history, it's called revolution, it's called evolution, it's called change, it's called the human condition. Like she's the first person on the planet to realize that? If it were that simple all of the planets woe's would disappear. Humanity's history is based on trying to better ourselves!
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Postby Greek_Geek on September 16th, 2011, 12:36 am 

Okay, here's my list: One star (*) was okay, two (**) was good, three (***) was great.

Atlas Shrugged (Socioeconomic)**
Fight Club (Materialism, Modern Male Identity)**
American Beauty (Modern Male Identity)**
The Fountain (Metaphysics, Perception of reality)***
12 Monkeys (psychological)**
What Dreams May Come (After life, existence and being)*
The 13th Floor (reality)*
Matrix (reality)**
Children of Men (Humanity)* by the way, I don't think civilization would collapse just because we couldn't reproduce, not until earth's population dwindled into the thousands at least

Here's an interesting question I recently thought about. In the movie "Deep Impact" the government conceals the knowledge of a comet for about a year or more before it hits. This is my question: Is the public's reaction to the government's knowledge of the comet realistic? My point being, if you found out that the government knew about an event that would kill everyone and decided not to tell you, how would you react? You could have used the time to prepare, or at least get things in your life in order to accept the inevitable. What gives the government the right to decide who lives and who dies? The movie explains that the government does so to prevent anarchy. The irony is that not telling the public until WEEKS before would probably create worse anarchy.
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Postby mtbturtle on September 17th, 2011, 2:21 pm 

rrushius,

I haven't seen 3-Iron. I would flip the order with Rashomon at the top.

In the other list I haven't seen the first two. Dead Man has been in my netflix queu for awhile. Pi was ok. I didn't care for Black Swan at all. Liked Jacob's Ladder but it's been 25 or more years since I saw it.

Out of all of them Rashomon is the only one I've seen multiple times and would watch again at least in part. :)
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Postby mtbturtle on September 17th, 2011, 2:48 pm 

Oh just some I picked out from my Netflix ratings - no particular order not necessarily philosophical

Blade Runner
Seven Samurai
Grave of the Fireflies
Yojimbo
Princess Bride
Blood Simple
Chinatown
Winter's Bone
Memento
Bicycle Thieves
Tampopo
Moon
The Thin Man
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A Clockwork Orange
The Big Lebowski
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Postby rrushius on September 17th, 2011, 3:32 pm 

mtbturtle wrote:Out of all of them Rashomon is the only one I've seen multiple times and would watch again at least in part. :)


Yeah, Rashomon is great--I just gave it less rating than the other two because of its theatrical setting, which may not appeal much to modern audiences--the subject though is well worked, and I think, with the mixing of two novels, Kurosawa has done a great job, better than each of the novels alone. In a Grove for example, ends with the story of the dead man as told through a medium. While in the movie, there is also the third listener who steals the kimono, and who accuses the woodcutter of having stolen the knife, with the words, "A bandit, calling another a bandit." The reason I like it better than the novels, is because in the movie, the lies, though they emerge and become obvious, they also form an undercurrent to truth--which might be noticed especially in the end, when the priest's belief in humanity is restored as the woodcutter adopts the baby--the belief itself being just another effect of all those lies.
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Postby Laconic Lethality on December 2nd, 2011, 9:19 pm 

I agree with the consistent references to films based on the works of Philip K. ****, although the books themselves are much deeper. I recommend "They Live" for its themes of depression and sudden awakening to reality.
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Postby Newagemystic on December 3rd, 2011, 11:41 pm 

I can't believe no one has mentioned: "The Butterfly Effect" yet. That is a powerful and philosophical movie.

It deals with the Chaos Theory.
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Postby Laconic Lethality on December 4th, 2011, 10:12 am 

Rashomon is certainly an excellent film, as are all of Kurosawa's. I did not see, however, any references to "Ran" or "Kagemusha" which are also highly acclaimed. Ran, as you may know, deals with the downfall of an empire due to human nature, as well as objectivity, and Kagemusha describes a more psychological experience when a theif is forced to impersonate a deceased general. Kurosawa, truly, has perfected the genre of realism in film.
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Postby Sana Line on December 11th, 2011, 7:26 pm 

THE NETWORK.
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Postby dlorde on February 14th, 2012, 2:20 pm 

Nobody seems to have mentioned 'The Truman Show'. I think it's underrated and does explicitly question issues of freedom, free will, deception, Big Brother, the nanny state, control, choice, ethics, media intrusion, privacy, etc. Plus, if you can handle Jim Carrey, it's fun.
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Postby weakmagneto on March 13th, 2012, 7:30 pm 

The God's Must Be Crazy
Logan's Run
Star Wars
The Village
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Postby wuliheron on March 14th, 2012, 3:20 am 

Being There - Peter Seller's finest role. Makes Forest Gump look pretentious.

The Lathe of Heaven - Original PBS version is still their best selling video after 30 years.

Lady in the Sand - Japanese existentialism at its finest.

Drunken Master - The original is a classic, but the sound track sucks.

P. S. - There is no such thing as drunken boxing, but there is a Taoist sect for drunks.
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Postby xfpower on March 17th, 2012, 4:24 am 

Rumble Fish (poetry in motion)

Apocalypse Now (Redux) (kurtz)

Papurika (Collective Consciousness)
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Postby Whut on March 29th, 2012, 5:07 pm 

Pulp Fiction - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/

I <3 Huckabees - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0356721/

Waking Life - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243017/

Being There - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078841/

Mindwalk - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100151/

Peaceful Warrior - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438315/

Been watching quite a few films recently... I like all of these and they all are related to philosophical topics.
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Postby BadgerJelly on April 13th, 2012, 4:09 pm 

"Dancer In the Dark" - Just beautiful if you love music and the emotion Bjork manages to exude as one of the most expressive Artist alive IMO. GENIUS (And I don't use that word lightly!)

"Monty Python : The Holy Grail" - VERY thought provoking as well as being stupid, clever and VERY funny.

Fight Club - Not seen this? SERIOUSLY!?

Forrest Gump - The perfect way to show "intelligent" people how stupid they are.

Rashomon - Akira Kurosawa's timeless classic.

Old Boy - Korean cinematic wonder! Horrifically beautiful.

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon - Love story with beautiful landscapes and martial arts.
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