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Top 5 favorite & disliked philosophers

Postby LouSalome on June 13th, 2008, 5:53 pm 

I like making lists, so this is perfect.

(In no particular order)

Likes
Immanuel Kant
Simone de Beavoir
Karl Marx
Parmenides
St. Augustine

Dislikes
Friedrich Nietzsche
Bertram Russell
David Hume
Peter Singer
A.J. Ayer
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Postby xcthulhu on June 13th, 2008, 6:51 pm 

Likes:

Plato
Kurt Godel
Bertrand Russell
David Lewis
Ludwig Wittgenstein

Dislikes:

Karl Popper
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
Charles Stevenson
Karl Marx
Richard Dawkins

...I throw Dawkins on their because I am so sick and tired of hearing his party line regarding atheism.
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Postby mtbturtle on June 13th, 2008, 7:41 pm 

xcthulhu wrote:Richard Dawkins

...I throw Dawkins on their because I am so sick and tired of hearing his party line regarding atheism.


Not to mention the whole meme thing leaves much to be desired also.
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Postby erythrophyte on June 13th, 2008, 7:52 pm 

I cannot list many, since I have not studied many philosophers adequately to make a good judgment. However, I have an affinity for Nietzsche, Buber and philosophers of technology like Jonas and Borgmann. I also find Kaufmann and Adorno very interesting.

As for philosophers I don't like... that is a vague question, along with the previous question really. Is this dislike in terms of their lives? Their style of writing? Their philosophies? Nevertheless, every philosopher has something to say. At the least, I think we should first give them our time before passing judgment.

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Postby Phalcon on June 13th, 2008, 8:03 pm 

Likes:

Spinoza
Nietzsche
Hume
Dennett

Dislikes:

Kant
Descartes
Schopenhauer
Heidegger

BTW I find this ranking activity to be very superficial. The only reason it might be worthwhile is to get to know each other's general philosophical leanings.
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Postby LouSalome on June 13th, 2008, 8:22 pm 

Solomon wrote:Wow, we share in our dislikes it would seem. Yeah, Peter Singer, he is rather disgusting I do agree, and Ayer, just so pompous, in his whole limited, small philosophy. But I must say I am very sad to see Karl Marx in your top 5 favorite; he almost made my top 5 least favorite......


I feel so sad...Marx is brilliant--particularly in his Early Manuscripts. And I would respond to you, "If only you didn't like Monsieur Russell so much!"

But yes...I feel gleeful about the abhorrence of Ayer and Singer.

Kierkegaard would have been on my favorites if it weren't limited to five. He's got to be one of the most engaging writers I've ever read.

Also, erythrophyte, I think the "dislikes" part is meant for how you view their philosophy, just as the "likes" part is according to that.
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Postby LouSalome on June 13th, 2008, 10:47 pm 

Hegel is one of those guys who has interesting theories that are fun to hear about--but not fun to read. And this is coming from someone devoted to Kant.
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Postby Aristippus on June 14th, 2008, 7:25 am 

Likes:

Stirner
Schopenhauer
Camus
Chuang Tzu
Shankara


Dislikes:

Descartes
Marx
Hegel
Confucius
Bentham

(I noticed someone put de Sade in their Least Favourites so I just have to say he'd definitely be the sixth place on my Most.)
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Postby Aristippus on June 14th, 2008, 9:33 am 

Solomon wrote:I have read two biographies on Marquis de Sade, and I have come to a conclusion after much contemplation. Sade is responsible for some of the most perverse, evil literature ever penned; as a matter of fact, I was so scarred after reading 120 Days of Sodom, and Justine that the experience largely served as the inspiration for a tattoo on my chest that says: horror. We cannot cease to be horrified at certain aspects of existence because when we do our souls become callused and we forget to speak up. Wiesel said, "Silence always gives voice to the oppressor, never the oppressed." Anyways, my conclusion is this: that there is an undeniable pathetic quality to those who subvert their souls to causes of evil. And while their actions should inspire horror, for I believe that is the only dignified and proper response, they themselves should inspire pity.

You say 'evil' and I'm interested in what you mean by that. Do you believe Evil is an actual entity unto itself? Can something (or some person) truly be evil, in your eyes? Or is it just a result/combination of other, morally 'neutral', factors? I guess what I'm trying to ask you is do you think de Sade was merely insane/deviant or do you actually consider him or his writings to constitute... 'Evil'?
I'm gradually reading through 120 Days as we speak. Admittedly I've only just past the Introduction but I couldn't help skipping to the end and reading a couple of the detailed 'Murderous Passions'. It's horrific, yes, but I've read worse. I'm not scarred by it, I'm just desensitised. That said, I would never in a million years consider perpetrating any of the acts depicted in the book.
I've never read Justine but it's definitely on my list of books to read. I've read Philosophy in the Boudoir though and a few of his other shorter works. I find de Sade's actual philosophy fascinating. I see his pornographic works as an ultimate challenge to society and all preconceived notions of decency and morality. I think it's far too easy to demonise de Sade, far harder to sympathise with him in what he's really trying to say.
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Postby LouSalome on June 14th, 2008, 6:09 pm 

Oy. Why must topics diverge thus?

I would like to say, as a person in between who has studied the Good Marquis (in particular through Georges Bataille) that the very point of the matter is that the novels are utterly repulsive. I think there are very few people out there who would call them erotic, to be sure, but I think that this taking things to extremes few people would even think about is merely a part of de Sade's philosophy and is a political and philosophical move rather than simply a pornographic one.

I would also not hesitate to say that both Rousseau and Voltaire were involved in the pornographic movements at the time, so de Sade was not the only one.

(I am not a fan, myself.)
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Postby LUIX on June 15th, 2008, 5:43 pm 

I like:

Socrates
Plato
Telesio
Pascal

Kinda like:
Giordano Bruno

Dislike:

Hesse
Spinoza
Dante

They may seem random. But, I only list the philosophers I have studied in one way or another. I haven't started started studying any modern philosophers.. Maybe, I'll make a new list next year. And I study Telesio, Bruno, and Dante because I am italian.
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Postby Deftil on June 16th, 2008, 9:28 am 

LUIX wrote:I like:
Socrates
Plato
Telesio
Pascal
Kinda like:
Giordano Bruno

Dislike:

Hesse
Spinoza
Dante

They may seem random. But, I only list the philosophers I have studied in one way or another. I haven't started started studying any modern philosophers.. Maybe, I'll make a new list next year. And I study Telesio, Bruno, and Dante because I am italian.


Which Hesse do you mean? Mary? I just hope its not Hermann the novelist, poet, and painter who's pretty much one of my favorite people ever. You probably don't mean him though.


Also, I'm litle surprised to not see Hobbes on anyone's lists.
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Postby mtbturtle on June 16th, 2008, 9:43 am 

Rortykiller wrote:how fun?

LIKES

Rorty


Given your nick I was curious to see where Rorty would end up on your lists.
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Postby LUIX on June 16th, 2008, 1:58 pm 

Deftil wrote:
LUIX wrote:Dislike:

Hesse
Spinoza
Dante

They may seem random. But, I only list the philosophers I have studied in one way or another. I haven't started started studying any modern philosophers.. Maybe, I'll make a new list next year. And I study Telesio, Bruno, and Dante because I am italian.


Which Hesse do you mean? Mary? I just hope its not Hermann the novelist, poet, and painter who's pretty much one of my favorite people ever. You probably don't mean him though.


Also, I'm litle surprised to not see Hobbes on anyone's lists.

I mean Hermann.. The only thing I like about him is his writing style. I dont like his thoughts or subjects.
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Postby Deftil on June 17th, 2008, 1:41 am 

I mean Hermann.. The only thing I like about him is his writing style. I dont like his thoughts or subjects.

Well to be fair, I can understand that. I mean he certainly can be depressing.
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Postby Montethrower on June 23rd, 2008, 10:12 am 

Top 5

Spinoza
Karl Marx
Camus
Leibniz
Sartre

(there are more)


Least favorite

Nietzsche
Aquinas
Peirce
Bertrand Russell
Dewey



I believe, though, that you gain something from reading any philosopher, whether you liked it at the end of the day or not. If I can find even one grain of knowledge, a different viewpoint, or anything of value in a philosopher I don't like, I still consider my time well spent in reading him,.




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Postby Usyless on June 23rd, 2008, 11:49 am 

Like:

Wittgenstein
Hume
Plato
Nietzsche
Hobbes

Dislike:

Derrida
Hegel
Ayn Rand
Heidegger
Marx
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Postby diotimajsh on June 24th, 2008, 2:15 am 

I'm amused at how my likes fall under a number of people's dislikes...

LIKES
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Plato
Nietzsche
Bertrand Russell
Kant (for the Critique of Pure Reason, but not so much a fan of his ethics/aesthetics)

DISLIKES
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Anyone who writes postmodernist garbage, I guess =P (no offense intended to any actual po-mo fans here)
I can't really think of any speicfic philosophers whose work I tend to strongly dislike... de Sade might qualify, although I don't normally think of him as much of a philosopher, nor have I read much by him.

....I hate certain writing styles, like Heidegger's and Hegel's. And Kant is really terrible too, but I like his content enough to make up for it.
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Postby MattK on July 17th, 2008, 10:31 pm 

Likes:

Aristotle
Locke
Rand
Nietzsche
Bacon


Dislikes:

Plato
Descartes
Marx
Hegel
Kant
... and more
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby Total Science on December 5th, 2009, 12:59 am 

5 Philosophers I Like
Democritus
Pythagoras
Plato
Philolaus
Anaxagoras

5 Sophists I Dislike
Darwin
Newton
Einstein
Hegel
Marx
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby Aristippus on December 5th, 2009, 3:10 am 

Total Science wrote:5 Philosophers I Like
Democritus
Pythagoras
Plato
Philolaus
Anaxagoras

5 Sophists I Dislike
Darwin
Newton
Einstein
Hegel
Marx

I don't get it......
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby CanadysPeak on December 5th, 2009, 10:01 am 

Favorites (not in order)
Freire
Arendt
Camus
Maimonides
Descartes

Dislikes (again not in order)
Rand
Rosseau
Rand
Russell
Rand
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby Total Science on December 5th, 2009, 12:48 pm 

Aristippus wrote:
Total Science wrote:5 Philosophers I Like
Democritus
Pythagoras
Plato
Philolaus
Anaxagoras

5 Sophists I Dislike
Darwin
Newton
Einstein
Hegel
Marx

I don't get it......

I'm guessing you never will?
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby Deftil on December 5th, 2009, 5:41 pm 

Aristippus wrote:
Total Science wrote:5 Philosophers I Like
Democritus
Pythagoras
Plato
Philolaus
Anaxagoras

5 Sophists I Dislike
Darwin
Newton
Einstein
Hegel
Marx

I don't get it......

I guess we have something on an anti-science type on our hands. Kind of ironic with the username. And kind of strange to mention some of those "sophists" in a thread about philosophers. And strange to refer to them as sophists at all.
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby Zach82 on December 5th, 2009, 9:56 pm 

Some of these guys have nothing to do with each other, but...

Likes:
-Kierkegaard
-Kant
-Berkeley
-Barth
-Sartre

Dislikes:
-Descartes
-Schleiermacher
-Hegel
-Churchland (Both of 'em)
-Dawkins (I totally believe in evolution- I just don't like 'im)

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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby Total Science on December 10th, 2009, 11:47 pm 

Deftil wrote:I guess we have something on an anti-science type on our hands.

Not anti-science. Anti-pseudoscience.

Kind of ironic with the username.

Not ironic once you realize that I actually love science.

And kind of strange to mention some of those "sophists" in a thread about philosophers.

Who would you list on your dislikes? Philosophers?

And strange to refer to them as sophists at all.

Why? Do you think Socrates was strange too?
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby Narziss on June 26th, 2010, 10:08 pm 

I like:

1. Nietzsche
2. Hume
3. Wittgenstein
4. Freud
5. Gödel
6. Heraclitus


I dislike:

1. Ayn Rand
2. Derrida
3. Russell
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby The Doctor on July 17th, 2010, 2:23 pm 

Likes:
1) David Hume
2) Bertrand Russell
3) John Stuart Mill
4) Thomas Hobbes
5) Spinoza

and Peter Singer



Dislikes:
1) St. Augustine
2) Friedrich Nietzsche
3) Rene Descartes
4) Thomas Aquinas
5) Blaise Pascal

and many more...
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby edy420 on July 19th, 2010, 8:38 pm 

The only philosopher I know is descarte's
I stumbled onto him when trying to find the meaning of existence (didn't really find the answer)
So I guess he's my number one favorite and my number one least favorite.

Is it common for philosophers to go into a meditative state?
Guess I'll find out when I finish my list of philosophers/philosophies to study.
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Re: top 5 favorite and disliked philosophers

Postby Louis_B on July 19th, 2010, 9:02 pm 

I'm just a pleb, not well read in philosophy..I like working stuff out for myself without being too cluttered, but Socrates should have a mention.
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