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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on January 8th, 2019, 3:15 am 

bangstrom » January 7th, 2019, 2:26 am wrote:Atoms at 0-K are not totally devoid of kinetic energy
since they still maintain their internal motions and
structure and this extra bit of energy is known as
zero point energy (ZPE) or Zitterbewegung.


bangstrom » January 7th, 2019, 11:44 am wrote: The ZPE and the Kelvin temperature scale are two different things.


Zero-point energy in Classical and Quantum theories.
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Zero-point energy (ZPE) is the difference between the lowest
possible energy that a quantum mechanical system may have,
and the classical minimum energy of the system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

a)  quantum mechanical system
b)  classical mechanical system

Two different systems.
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Unlike in classical mechanics, quantum systems constantly fluctuate
in their lowest energy state due to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

a) Atoms of ''classical mechanics'' at 0-K  (-273°C ) are totally devoid
of kinetic energy and cannot fluctuate or move.
b) Quantum particles at 0°KELVIN (-273°C ) have movements and vibrations .

Two different objects.
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby bangstrom on January 8th, 2019, 4:35 am 

"3. When it comes to associate the cold state of Kelvin temperature with force, scientific opinion is that cold temperatures are the opposite of energy and are considered to be non-usable. Furthermore, cold temperatures are identified as Entropy: meaning a negative force that works against energy rules of efficiency. In cross-reference, cold is the opposite of expansion: it causes contraction. The effects are: mass shrinks and the structure of molecular motions slow down. In turn, cold temperatures emit a negative force that affects an operational system, which becomes inefficient." Jagg

Cold is the absence of heat. In what "scientific opinion" do cold temperatures emit a negative force?
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on January 8th, 2019, 9:38 pm 

bangstrom » January 8th, 2019, 4:35 am wrote:"3.
Cold is the absence of heat.
In what "scientific opinion" do cold temperatures emit a negative force?

a) the cold state = 0°KELVIN (-273°C / -459°F) is absent of heat.
b) the cold state = 0°KELVIN (-273°C / -459°F) is packed with
'' negative virtual particles'' that can appear as real particles:
Casimir effect, Lamb shift, vacuum fluctuations.
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby bangstrom on January 9th, 2019, 3:15 pm 

Virtual particles are too fleeting in their existence to provide a usable source of energy and they add nothing to the Kelvin scale.
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on January 12th, 2019, 10:06 pm 

True Facts About Cosmology (or, Misconceptions Skewered)
Posted on January 12, 2019 by Sean Carroll

. . . some true facts about cosmology that might serve as a useful corrective.

http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blo ... -skewered/
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on January 30th, 2019, 3:07 am 

Sunday, January 27, 2019
New Scientist creates a Crisis-Anticrisis Pair
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“There are people who think that, using just the power of our minds,
we can understand what dark matter is, what quantum gravity is,”
says Arvanitaki.
“That’s not true. The only way forward is to have experiment
and theory move in unison.”

'' . . .  if you play by everybody else’s rules,
you will make the same mistakes.

If you want to make a difference, you must be willing to accept
that people ridicule you, criticize you, and shun you.
Turok wasn’t prepared for any of this.
It had not even crossed his mind. ''

Posted by Sabine Hossenfelder
http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... risis.html
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on April 8th, 2019, 7:39 am 

Emptiness and Space

Earth space is almost ''empty''
but it is a big theater stage on which the events take place

Atom's space  is almost ''empty''
But it is fulled with electric / nuclear force

Cosmic space is almost ''empty''
but it has enormous matter / stuff

Vacuum space  is almost ''empty''
but ''virtual particles'' exist there, which have possibility
to effect ''normal-matter''.
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Don't ignore ''Emptiness''
Every emptiness has something important.
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby bangstrom on April 8th, 2019, 3:03 pm 

socrat44 » April 8th, 2019, 6:39 am wrote:
Don't ignore ''Emptiness''
Every emptiness has something important.
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This is from Lao Tse’s Tao De Ching written in 500 BC and translated by Stephen Mitchell.
Chapter 11

"We join spokes together in a wheel,
but it is the center hole
that makes the wagon move. We shape clay into a pot,
but it is the emptiness inside
that holds whatever we want. We hammer wood for a house,
but it is the inner space
that makes it livable. We work with being,
but non-being is what we use."

https://terebess.hu/english/tao/mitchell.html
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on April 9th, 2019, 3:05 am 

bangstrom » April 8th, 2019, 3:03 pm wrote:
socrat44 » April 8th, 2019, 6:39 am wrote:
Don't ignore ''Emptiness''
Every emptiness has something important.
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This is from Lao Tse’s Tao De Ching written in 500 BC and translated by Stephen Mitchell.
Chapter 11

"We join spokes together in a wheel,
but it is the center hole
that makes the wagon move. We shape clay into a pot,
but it is the emptiness inside
that holds whatever we want. We hammer wood for a house,
but it is the inner space
that makes it livable. We work with being,
but non-being is what we use."

https://terebess.hu/english/tao/mitchell.html


Yeah, Thank you . . . .
i forgot that the Old Master Lao Tzu explained
emptiness more concretely , observably, clearly
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on April 12th, 2019, 4:03 am 

  Zero Vacuum's Quantum Particle
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1 - According to the Theory of Ideal gas the
quantum particle has Boltzmann's molar-mass (k)
2 - According to the Charle’s law the molar-mass (k)
particle has a flat geometrical form.
3 - According to the Quantum Theory the quantum
particle has Dirac's negative energy ( -E=Mc^2)
4 - According to Einstein's  SRT the quantum
particle can fly with constant speed ( c=1 )
5 - According to the Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit
quantum particle has an angular momentum
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on April 12th, 2019, 10:51 am 

“ The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? “
/ Paul Dirac /
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“The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!”
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
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Book: The Fermi Solution,
''. . . : something seems wrong with our idea of the vacuum.
It is we who abhor a vacuum, who recoil from the stillness
of the void as from an open grave.''
/ by Hans Christian von Baeyer, page 37-38. /
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on April 13th, 2019, 10:08 am 

socrat44 » April 12th, 2019, 4:03 am wrote:  Zero Vacuum's Quantum Particle
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1 - According to the Theory of Ideal gas the
quantum particle has Boltzmann's molar-mass (k)
2 - According to the Charle’s law the molar-mass (k)
particle has a flat geometrical form.
3 - According to the Quantum Theory the quantum
particle has Dirac's negative energy ( -E=Mc^2)
4 - According to Einstein's  SRT the quantum
particle can fly with constant speed ( c=1 )
5 - According to the Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit
quantum particle has an angular momentum
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1 - Dirac's theory  has reference frame of vacuum
and therefore (-E=Mc^2)
2 - Einstein's SRT postulate has reference frame
of vacuum and therefore speed is ( c=1)
3 - Theory of Ideal gas has reference frame of vacuum
but theoretical quantum physics  ignores this framework.
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on April 14th, 2019, 6:11 am 

socrat44 » April 13th, 2019, 10:08 am wrote:
socrat44 » April 12th, 2019, 4:03 am wrote:  Zero Vacuum's Quantum Particle
===
1 - According to the Theory of Ideal gas the
quantum particle has Boltzmann's molar-mass (k)
2 - According to the Charle’s law the molar-mass (k)
particle has a flat geometrical form.
3 - According to the Quantum Theory the quantum
particle has Dirac's negative energy ( -E=Mc^2)
4 - According to Einstein's  SRT the quantum
particle can fly with constant speed ( c=1 )
5 - According to the Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit
quantum particle has an angular momentum
====

1 - Dirac's theory  has reference frame of vacuum
and therefore (-E=Mc^2)
2 - Einstein's SRT postulate has reference frame
of vacuum and therefore speed is ( c=1)
3 - Theory of Ideal gas has reference frame of vacuum
but theoretical quantum physics  ignores this framework.
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The theory of ideal gas is not an ''abstract theory'' or
only ''useful as a simple approximation''
It is useful as Real theory about situation in the Vacuum.
The quantum particles have their source in the Vacuum.
The real particles appear from Vacuum.
(Casimir effect, Lamb shift, vacuum's fluctuation . . ..etc)
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To understand itself, Quantum physics must be united
with Thermodynamics of Ideal gas
(this is a missed idea in modern physics)
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby bangstrom on April 14th, 2019, 12:53 pm 

socrat44 » April 13th, 2019, 9:08 am wrote:
1 - Dirac's theory  has reference frame of vacuum
and therefore (-E=Mc^2)


I like to think of the vacuum as Einstein’s curved spacetime or “gravity” in other words where time keeps everything from happening at at once and space keeps everything from happening in the same place.

Maxwell suggested that the universe is a balance between equal amounts of positive and negative energy but he could never identify what might be the reservoir for negative energy. Pascual Jordan later speculated that gravity is negative energy and what we call positive energy is the sum total of both energy (heat, light, etc.) and matter. In that context, Dirac’s identification of the vacuum as negative energy (-E=Mc^2) makes sense with M being the total mass of the universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe

Quote from wiki,

"Pascual Jordan first suggested that since the positive energy of a star's mass and the negative energy of its gravitational field together may have zero total energy, conservation of energy would not prevent a star being created by a quantum transition of the vacuum. George Gamow recounted putting this idea to Albert Einstein: "Einstein stopped in his tracks and, since we were crossing a street, several cars had to stop to avoid running us down".[3]
The zero-energy universe theory originated in 1973, when Edward Tryon proposed in the journal Nature that the universe emerged from a large-scale quantum fluctuation of vacuum energy, resulting in its positive mass-energy being exactly balanced by its negative gravitational potential energy.[4]”
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on April 15th, 2019, 1:59 am 

bangstrom » April 14th, 2019, 12:53 pm wrote:
socrat44 » April 13th, 2019, 9:08 am wrote:
1 - Dirac's theory  has reference frame of vacuum
and therefore (-E=Mc^2)

Dirac’s identification of the vacuum as negative energy (-E=Mc^2)
makes sense with M being the total mass of the universe.


  Sorry.
1 - Dirac saw ''vacuum sea'' as a universe space with holes
From these holes negative-virtual  energy quantum particles
(-E=Mc^2) appear that somehow can interact with real particles

2 - Dirac theory has nothing to do with gravity (total Mass) problems
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Re:   The Universe from Nothing: T=0K. / by Israel Socratus

Postby socrat44 on April 16th, 2019, 10:27 pm 

  Dark Energy = Cosmic Zero Vacuum
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1 - Dark energy is an essential part of cosmology today
2 - Dark energy is just pure energy
3 - In the early state of universe's evolution Dark energy
was dominated
4 - Dark energy is not relative, it is constant structure / stuff . . .
5 - Dark energy permeates the universe
6 - Dark energy distribution is always smooth
7 - Dark energy does not become more dilute when
the universe expands
8 - Dark energy exists even if no actual particles or other
stuff is around
9 - Dark energy is not carried by particles or matter
10 - The density (cosmological constant) of Dark energy is very low
11 - The density of Dark energy is the same everywhere, remains
the same over time (it can be no denser in one region than another)
12 - Dark energy is very different from dark matter, which
collects into objects and will be denser in some place
than in others
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My opinion
All these proportions have the Cosmic Zero Vacuum (T=0K)
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REFERENCE
Book: Dark matter and the Dinosaurs
by Lisa Randall
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