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Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on April 12th, 2017, 7:05 pm 

If there's one thing I hate more than misuse of the word "literally" ("I was like literally drunk at the party last night, man"), it's misuse of the expression "pull oneself up by one's bootstraps", as if as an exhortation to levitational greatness. ("I really need to pull myself up by my bootstraps, man")

Since this is a science forum, please join me in an experiment, ladies and gentlemen:

First, grab your bootstraps, or shoelaces. Female participants grab your stilettos or something.

Next, pull upwards as hard as you can.

What happened?
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Re: A Simple Question: Should We Believe Scientists?

Postby Braininvat on April 12th, 2017, 8:25 pm 

Female participants grab your stilettos or something.



A feminist's head just exploded.

You know women also wear boots, right? And, if they are equestrian sorts of boots, they may have straps.


Another weird expression is "head over heels." Isn't your head normally positioned over and above the heels? If some amatory state has really thrown you out of the usual alignment, wouldn't "heels over head" express that better?
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Re: A Simple Question: Should We Believe Scientists?

Postby Lomax on April 12th, 2017, 8:29 pm 

I always struggle with "taken out of context". All quotations are out of context, by their very essence. Anyway, "literally" literally means "to the letter" and has always been used for the purpose of emphasis.

Shall I split these posts off? I'm always up for Pedantry Hour.
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Re: A Simple Question: Should We Believe Scientists?

Postby NoShips on April 12th, 2017, 8:42 pm 

Shall I split these posts off? I'm always up for Pedantry Hour.


Nah, I enjoy the atmosphere of Gemütlichkeit here.

Tee hee. Guess what word I learned this week.

Anyway, "literally" literally means "to the letter" and has always been used for the purpose of emphasis.

Hmm, I always took "literally" to be contrasted with "metaphorically".

P.S. What I do need is a place where I can play around with the quote function without messing up the forums. Gotta master this somehow. People might talk.
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby Lomax on April 12th, 2017, 9:09 pm 

We gon' be Gemütlichkeit in Odds and Ends, or maybe the Lounge. Grab on to your Doc Martens. Feel free to play around with the formatting functions on this thread, and if it becomes too much of an eye sore I'll just trash the offending posts.
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on April 14th, 2017, 7:52 pm 

Lomax » April 13th, 2017, 10:09 am wrote:We gon' be Gemütlichkeit in Odds and Ends, or maybe the Lounge. Grab on to your Doc Martens.


Got ma Doc Martens on

Lomax » April 13th, 2017, 10:09 am wrote:Feel free to play around with the formatting functions on this thread, and if it becomes too much of an eye sore I'll just trash the offending posts.


Playing around now
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on April 14th, 2017, 7:53 pm 

Hey, this isn't so hard after all :-)
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on May 5th, 2017, 3:21 am 

Next person who pronounces "orang-utan" as orang-utang gets my wife for 2 weeks
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on May 9th, 2017, 1:26 am 

Upper Egypt, you say, professor? That'll be at the top of the map, right?

http://www.google.com.tw/url?sa=i&rct=j ... 3677853406

Psssttt! Hey guys. How do I get a pic that is stored on my own computer to appear here?
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on May 9th, 2017, 10:18 pm 

Never mind. Mrs Ships raised no fools :-)
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 10th, 2017, 8:36 am 

Why all the hullabaloo over "unconditional love"? Is there another kind?

"Listen up, sucker. I'm thinking about loving you, but I have three conditions."
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby Lomax on June 10th, 2017, 9:52 am 

Conditional is the only kind. You turn into the next Hitler tomorrow, you simply won't be the guy I fell in love with.
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 12th, 2017, 3:51 am 

Does "intellectual midget" refer to a brainy short dude or a towering, musclebound dumbass?
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby Lomax on June 12th, 2017, 9:22 am 

You just made me realise I've been misinterpreting a lyric from a song for the last fifteen years.
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 12th, 2017, 9:27 am 

Um, which one?
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 12th, 2017, 9:33 am 

I must be honest, Lomax. I got "intellectual dwarf" from Quine's "Word and Object", which I'm reading now. I'd always avoided it on the grounds I thought it would be hideously boring.

Turns out to be a blast :-)
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 12th, 2017, 9:34 am 

Oh, I see now. You underlined it. Tee hee.

Hmm, "mental midget" doesn't quite work. Could be a crazy short dude.
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby Braininvat on June 12th, 2017, 10:01 am 

NoShips » June 12th, 2017, 12:51 am wrote:Does "intellectual midget" refer to a brainy short dude or a towering, musclebound dumbass?


hehe.

What's it called, in linguistic philosophy, when a question is not really a question?
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 12th, 2017, 10:04 am 

A tree? Who cares as long as tenure holds.
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 16th, 2017, 9:59 am 

New pet hate: some dude who has just read "Logical Fallacies for Beginners", a Christmas gift perhaps

"Bzzz, you just committed fallacy #43"

"Bzzz, you just committed fallacy #361"

"Well, did I? I'm all into let a thousand flowers bloom and all that but..." - NS

Too late. The damage is done, and I get to farm grue emeralds in rural China for the next 30 years.

After all, who in their right mind ever checks?

LOL

Erm , what I mean is, "Hey NoShips, I just investigated the strawman allegation and you're clear. It was unfounded. You may go on with your life, if you have one. Law is law after all" -- unnamed muscular lifeguard

*Choke*

A niche in the employment market?

In other words, Santa Logical-Fallacy-detector doesn't exist.

I got you, babe.
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 19th, 2017, 9:01 am 

Next person who says strawman....

Grrr, grrr. GRRRRRRR!!!

Ok, feel better now. This screamotherapy, scientific or not, works wonders :-)
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby Lomax on June 20th, 2017, 8:11 am 

NoShips, leave that scarecrow alone! That's not what they're meant for!
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 22nd, 2017, 9:55 am 

My summer solstice resolution: First time someone "likes" one of my posts, I'm gonna throw myself off the fridge. "Goodbye, cruel SPCF". Coz then I'll know I'm a venal bandwagoning sheep.

As far as this fridge martyr can see, the number of "likes" is directly proportional to the bias of the "liker", and indirectly proportional to the, erm, apodictic depth (hic) of the post (or throat). All depends if you're cross. Tee hee! Purposes, I mean.

Yes, it's a deep throat.

Some say it's my best feature for, erm, reasons we needn't go into, erm.

Moral of the story: What you lose in Gemütlichkeit you gain in objectivity. So dump all your friends like Nietzsche did. Oh wait, he never had any to begin with.

P.S. You know what, though, BiV? It's really nice when someone gets you. And you always do. Except when you don't, but that's only coz we're on a topic I've dedicated millenia of loser-with-no-life reading to while you reap the hot chicks in Bali :-)
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 22nd, 2017, 11:41 am 

Well, I did all my my hard lifting earlier. See Moses, globality, gravity and other stuff. Yes, hard stuff.

Ever had that "I'm a confused mess" feeling"? Gosh, it's like being seasick. Nothing worse.

Ever had that "It all makes sense now" feeling? :-)

Final thoughts: BiV and Lomax are super-clever. Thank you for everything!
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 23rd, 2017, 8:24 am 

Am I the last person on Earth who can tell "lose" from "loose"?
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 23rd, 2017, 9:27 am 

Well, guess what? Trainspotting 2 turns out to be shite. Who woulda guessed?

MeShips will remember Begbie as he was; an unrecognized Scottish treasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZyNLZZjMs

"Ye ken me, ah'm no the type o' c*** who goes lookin' for f**kin' bother, like, but at the end of the day, ah'm the c*** with the pool cue, and he can have the fat end in his puss any time he f**kin' wanted, like."

Robert Louis Stevenson, eat yer f**kin' heart out, like.

Tee hee.

Oh how I miss Scotland from very far away.
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 24th, 2017, 8:15 am 

I am allowed to post crap here with no fear of excoriation, right, gentlemen?

My fave Sinatra song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCcEQnBvydk

Coz it's me

Q1: Why would anyone want to be a clown? (Could've been Burt Lancaster after all)

Q2: Why would anyone want to wipe the silly grin off a clown's face?

Q3: Got any rope?
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 24th, 2017, 8:31 am 

I teach English in Taiwan. Just received this email...

QUOTE
My name is Mr.Yang.

I saw you are looking for students on the myu.com.tw website.

Can I meet you once before we arrange the first lesson?

Can you teach me at a coffee shop?

How much do you charge for one lesson?

Can you make it cheaper?


Can I have an introductory lesson for free?

UNQUOTE



My response:



My name is Mr.Yang. -- Well, I used to offer Yang discounts. You got here too late. Only hot Singaporeans get discounts this month.

I saw you are looking for students on the myu.com.tw website. - Aye, people who are committed to mastering English, no matter the cost

Can I meet you once before we arrange the first lesson? -- Ok, bring your history of cheap-bastardness. I expect references.

Can you teach me at a coffee shop? -- Who pays for the coffee?

How much do you charge for one lesson? - NTD800/hour

Can you make it cheaper? -- What a great idea! I wasn't worth it anyway. Yes, I'm willing to teach badly if you pay badly

Can I have an introductory lesson for free? - I have a better idea. 400 free introductory lessons. You strike me as a man who deserves free service.


Conclusion: Where have you been all my life?
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 24th, 2017, 8:32 am 

I'm drunk. Gonna send it to him. Tee hee!
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Re: Pedantry hour

Postby NoShips on June 24th, 2017, 8:48 am 

Just sent it (slightly edited). Wonder what Mr Yang will say. Stay tuned...
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