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Going from wildcats to cat breeds

Postby caters on July 19th, 2015, 2:10 pm 

I am currently writing a novel called Rubiks World. In the 3rd chapter(which might become the 4th or 5th chapter) is the first time that the cubes encounter big cats.

3 5x5 cubes go to a place in the african savannah where there is a tree and thornbushes.

The first one attracts the gazelle with grass. The gazelle is injured from the thornbushes and so is put in the grassy area surrounded by thornbushes. The second one sets up box traps. The third one climbs up the tree(thankfully no leopards around) scouting for predators. He spots a mother cheetah and her 4 cubs. The cheetah cubs are old enough to eat meat so they follow the mother cheetah as she hunts the gazelle. On the other side he spots lions. He knows the lions are going after the injured gazelle and not the cheetahs. The mother cheetah and her cubs are trapped at the same time that the lions kill the gazelle. They take the cheetahs with them to the other cubes.

These 4 cubs are raised and their mother is let back into the wild. It turns out to be 2 males and 2 females. These cheetahs are then trained to use their fast speed in woodlands without being foiled by all the trees. They are then bred into 42 different types. These 3 pattern types, 2 fur thickness types, and 7 color types to be specific:


Fur Thickness:


By then the cheetahs have been domesticated and each of 42 cubes has their own female cheetah. These domestic cheetahs still hunt but now they always bring it to their owners.

They then decide to raise the 2nd largest african cat, the leopard to eventually domesticate it. Once every type of leopard has been raised they are domesticated. The cheetahs are a little afraid but the leopards are trained to be nice to the cheetahs. Eventually the cheetahs come close to the leopards and even mate with them giving birth to cheetapards.

This is their 2nd major step towards the modern domestic cat. They then use the same approach with lions, jaguars, tigers, and then eventually all the wildcats are domesticated. There are still their wild counterparts though and not a major decrease in any species.

Now that they have every wildcat species they then use trial and error to form every cat breed that exists.

After that they build a pet store where cubes, cuboids, and other shapes can buy domesticated wildcats, cat breeds, and even some wildcat hybrids like cheetapards and ligers.

Now the cubes know the mating formulas for each cat breed and so if they are out of that cat breed and somebody wants it they can give them the mating formula and the 2 starting cats(Which could be cheetah and lion, leopard and tiger, etc.). Now the cubes clarify which of the pair is supposed to be male and which is supposed to be female for each mating so that nothing goes wrong. That is unless they are out of a certain gender of 1 of the starting cats. But in that situation the cube, cuboid, or other shape wanting to produce that cat breed could ask something like "Can I borrow your lioness? I need it to produce this cat breed."

But even if the cube, cuboid, or other shape does that he/she might say something like "No my lioness is sick and she is not in heat."

In that case if the cube, cuboid, or other shape asks everybody who has a lioness and they all say no he/she can go to the pet store with his/her 1 cat and the mating formula and ask them to produce a lioness and give it to him/her when she is ready to mate. This leads to 2 situations. The better situation is that they have female lion cubs and say "Yes". The absolute worst situation is when they don't have any female cubs and say "Sorry. We don't have any female cubs. You will have to ask people if they have a female lion cub and raise it or if you don't find any, tell us and we will domesticate more lions." But this is a last resort since usually at least 1 cube, cuboid, or other shape would say "Yes she is healthy and in heat. You can have her and then give it back to me when her offspring are 2 years old."
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Re: Going from wildcats to cat breeds

Postby TheVat on July 19th, 2015, 5:55 pm 

You have a unique imagination, Caters. A couple questions....

Any more details about the cubes? Are they an artificial life form? How do they get around?

Have you looked into the genetics of cheetapards, is this hybrid possible? And how do you get 42 breeds of cheetahs from 2 initial breeding pairs? Especially if you want coat colors like blue or red? I don't believe 4 individuals would contain that much genetic diversity.

At what point do the sentient Rubik cubes, in their maturation process, learn to "solve themselves? " Or do they?

Finally, a bit more frivolous question: is there any feline species whose name would allow us to call the cheetah hybrid a "cheetoh"?
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Re: Going from wildcats to cat breeds

Postby caters on July 19th, 2015, 7:18 pm 

They have retractable legs and arms so that they can scramble themselves. This could potentially lead to their stomach being where their brain is supposed to be but their organs reassemble after scrambling and after solving. If they are wounded the blood vessels that were cut are immediately cauterized so that there is little or no bleeding even if clotting factors and/or platelets are missing. If whole pieces come off of them doctors can carefully reassemble them. They open up 1 of their centers to reproduce and to give birth. Sometimes a cube will have to transform itself from being its current size to being larger in order to give birth or to reproduce. Their adult size is highly determined by environmental factors during pregnancy. The size of the mother and father also play a huge role. Their adult size in turn determines their growth rate so that larger cubes grow faster than smaller cubes. The amount of time it takes for them to grow a whole layer rises as the number of pieces in each layer rises and they grow piece by piece which means that their next piece could touch 1 of their previous pieces at a corner or an edge.

Cheetapards are still debated on as to whether or not it is possible. Some say that the leopard and cheetah are genetically related enough that they can mate and give birth to offspring. Some say that the cheetah is too specialized and thus can't produce hybrid offspring even in rare scenarios of cheetahs mating with leopards. Some say that cheetapards are not possible because cheetahs are too infertile to ever produce offspring from mating with a leopard since a leopard usually has a single mate and cheetahs often have multiple mates and not because of DNA difference.

As far as the breeds of cheetahs, the cheetahs in this story are more genetically diverse than cheetahs are now. Plus this 42 breeds is over 5 generations and if 2 genetically diverse breeding pairs give birth each to 4 cubs, all the cubs survive, and then those cheetahs give birth each to 4 cubs and they survive and so on over 5 generations it is possible to get 42 different cheetahs with some cheetahs expressing certain recessive genes(Such as thick fur and melanism) and other cheetahs expressing other recessive genes(Such as abundism and white fur) because if 2 pairs are genetically diverse and then certain mutations happen in the offspring the genetic diversity increases with each generation.

The cubes learn to solve themselves at about 5 years but they learn to retract their limbs and scramble themselves at 2 years. In this 3 year time period they learn what the different moves do and every 6 months they complete a step to solving themselves. Like at 2.5 years they will have learned how to do the white cross.

As for your last question about a cheetah hybrid being called a cheetoh there is no feline species that I know of that would allow us to call a cheetah hybrid a cheetoh. A cheetoh is actually a hybrid of a bengal cat(which is a domestic cat x asian leopard cat hybrid) and an ocicat which is a hybrid of Siamese cats, Abyssinians, and silver tabby American shorthairs that resembles an ocelot.

If you look at it though it does sort of look like a king cheetah with the spots and stripes and tear marks. That is probably why it is called a cheetoh and not something else is because the first person to breed this hybrid thought "This small cat looks like a cheetah, I wonder if it has any cheetah DNA."

Savannah cats which are a hybrid of a domestic cat and a serval ideally have those tear marks that are characteristic of cheetahs as well as cheetah spots.
In fact they are often called "mini cheetahs" for that reason. The tear marks and cheetah spots come from the serval DNA.

But so far there has been no cheetah x domestic cat hybrid partly because of the gestation period of the domestic cat and the cheetah differing by a whole month. It is also partly due to the fact that IVF would probably be required and IVF and AI both aren't as good at increasing cat fertility as they are at increasing fertility of other animals and that it would require a person to have a pet cheetah which is illegal in most places.
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