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zetreque » March 20th, 2018, 1:36 pm wrote:
Bullshit technology that does NOTHING to help humanity if you ask me. People can research and build it as a toy all the want but I will always be against these things on the road.
A human driver or pilot is going to fear for his own life. If I put my life into the hands of a robot that has no fear of death then that's just idiotic.
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zetreque » March 20th, 2018, 3:02 pm wrote:When you have other humans on the road, they might not die if they hit someone else, but they will fear the repercussions about injuring or killing someone and going to jail for manslaughter. A robot doesn't have that concern. If you have a human cab driver, he fears for his own life so he isn't going to crash the car out of fear for his own life. If a robot is driving your car, it doesn't have that same fear for it's own life.
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zetreque » March 20th, 2018, 3:22 pm wrote:I have not seen anything to tell me that facial or object recognition is up to human comparison yet. And whoever is programming the ethics into these cars is somehow deciding everyone's fate off of their ethics? Everyone has slightly different ethics so how can you force a certain ethical code on everyone?
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Mossling » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:30 pm wrote:At the end of the day - if someone does run out into the road in front of any vehicle travelling at significant speed, then there's going to be harm done no matter who is behind the wheel. The opitimized programmed responses could probably reduce such harm, don't you think?
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zetreque » March 20th, 2018, 4:09 pm wrote:Mossling » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:30 pm wrote:At the end of the day - if someone does run out into the road in front of any vehicle travelling at significant speed, then there's going to be harm done no matter who is behind the wheel. The opitimized programmed responses could probably reduce such harm, don't you think?
One last comment before I go to bed. Going back to the news of the fatality. I'm wondering if AI is going to end up being the scapegoat for deaths now? The blame is going to be lost. Who is to blame? The programmer at the auto company? The owner of the AI vehicle? Or will blame like in this situation be pushed off onto the "homeless" pedestrian?
And another problem with programmed ethics. You mention being able to have choices in how you program ethics into the vehicle. Most people don't even take the time to learn the Cruz control feature or all the features working their car radio. I doubt they are going to really get into programming the ethics which then goes back to the scapegoating issue pushing blame back onto the invisible intelligence.
And the bigger issue I think is subconscious ethics. We can all talk about ethics and tell people what our ethics are, but our real ethics come through our actions. You can't tell what someone's ethics is going to be until that split second decision on whether to hit the pedestrian crossing or the car in the oncoming or adjacent lane. It would take one hell of an advance camera network sensory system to calculate all of that and how a human would respond in the infinite situations out there in the world.
Another thing I just thought of is if we are putting our hands into the ethics forced upon us in these programed ethical AI's, does that take away our freedom in a way? For example, Society democratically (though not really democratic) decides what laws we live by. Our laws are a representation of our overall society's ethics. Laws take away freedom though and many who do not agree with certain laws because they have different ethics claim loss of freedom. If you have one auto maker deciding the ethics for everyone, then it's not a democratic process to determine those ethics force upon everyone on the decisions the AI makes.
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I have no doubt that they will be able to at some point in the future, if not right now.
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There are wandering animals, debris from landslides, drunk guys lying around that can easily look like a garbage bag inflated by the wind, and so on and so forth....
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In a 2,000-sq ft grow space, leafy greens and herbs are planted in individual pots housed in 4ft by 8ft white “grow modules”, which weigh about 800lb.
Autonomous machines do the heavy lifting, farming and sensing. “Angus”, which the Iron Ox co-founder Brandon Alexander described as “incredibly intelligent” and like a self-driving car (he gushed about being “very proud of it”), is a 1,000lb machine that moves around the farm, sensing and lifting, and transporting grow modules to the processing area.
There, a robotic arm, which is also autonomous, harvests the plants by gripping the pots. This reduces damage to the plant itself – which Alexander said was devilishly hard to accomplish and required developing a way for the machine to recognize plants as such and then be able to analyze them at a submillimeter scale. The robotic arm has four Lidar sensors and can “see” in 3D thanks to two cameras, which also allow it to identify diseases, pests and abnormalities, according to the company.
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he said to expect “rapid adoption”. “[Farmers] are looking for technological solutions,” said Slaughter.
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Iron Ox plans to begin selling its produce to some Bay Area restaurants and grocery stores later this year and sell to the entire region next year, with a goal of opening several more farms around urban centers in the coming years to reduce produce transportation times and costs.
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BadgerJelly » October 9th, 2018, 11:59 pm wrote:Are we already living in an AI driven society? I would argue quite strongly that we are due to the algorithms in use for advertising and the manner in which information is distributed.
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Right - at what point does the balance tip?
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BadgerJelly » October 10th, 2018, 7:12 pm wrote:Note: I don’t class “robots” as AI.
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